User talk:M karzarj

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Changes to Tabriz Article.

Copied from Tabriz discussion page: Hi, I have noticed that some changes have been made to Tabriz Article. Generally I think this way it's better. This makes the article shorter and more pleasent to read. But I have some points to make: 1. I think The city of firsts section is important enough to remain in the main article. As the case is in the Persian version of the article. 2. The issue that Tabriz is the city of firsts in Iran is not what Tabrizis believe. It's a documented fact. 3. Shortenening the list of famous Tabrizis in Tabriz article and moving the remaining names to a seperate article may be arbitrary in that which names should remain in the main article. A better way of cleaning up this section may be categorising the list and allowing all names to remian in Tabriz article as it is done in Isfahan article. 4. Besodes in articles about other cities all famous people are included and the list is not shortened. So either we should follow the suit in Tabriz article or there shoud be a wikipedia clean up policy which applies the other cities as well.

Please discuss these points so that we can decide weather we should restore the article to the previous versions or not. Regards, --Faucon7 21:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Question about Seghatoleslam

Hello, I noticed you contributed alot to the list of Tabrizis, and I noticed Seghatoleslam was on your list. I believe this name is in my familys history yet I can't find alot of info about this individual. I've heard some stories about things he's done, but I really cannot find any source online except for this list you have here, where he's mentioned as a "nationalist cleric".

I have found a picture of him here http://www.azarpadgan.com/no11/images/seghatoleslam.jpg

And I also found there was a street in Iran named after him.

If you could let me know any additional history that you may know, I would be glad to hear it, thanks.

Hi, Seghatoleslam was one of the Iranian nationalist at time near to the constitutional revolution. He was one of the reformist cleric shiaas muslims. He has been hanged by Russian troops with 12 other Iranian nationalists. He is buried in Maqbaratoshoara, Tabriz. You can find more information about him on: Fugy Tabriz, by Mohammad Saeed Ordubadi Part of the story is about him and to whom has been hangeed with him (in its recent translation to Persian by Raeisi Nia there is a foot note about him). There is also a TV movie by IRIB2.

Thanks for the very helpful information :). For a long time I couldn't find anything about this relative, as I was born in the U.S but my family is from Iran. Would you know by chance what movie IRIB2 made or where I can watch it? Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Persianguyagain (talk • contribs) 16:29, 11 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I will ask from somebody the name of the movie. Also the grave of the seghatoleslam is in the entrance of maqbaratoshoara at Tabriz. I shall made picture from it when I went to Tabriz (1 month later). you can also contribute with me by email.

Thanks very much, I will keep in contact :) Persianguyagain 11:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Tabriz Pix

Thanks for your nice pictures from Tabriz.... Is it possible to upload them in full size? Thanks in advanced -- Meisam (talk) 11:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I would like to contact you about permission to use one of your photographs from Wikimedia Commons in an article I am working on for an historical review. Please contact me at stephane.moronval@ac-amiens.fr at your earliest convenience. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.153.21.253 (talk) 13:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

No answer of you... Have you well received my message ? Could you please contact me quickly at this adress : stephane.moronval@ac-amiens.fr ? I'm interested by one of your photos for illustrating a work in a french publication... Thank you and best regards !

Hi Stephane! I have send an email for you I'm sending another one again. my server is yahoo so may be my email is going to your spam list, please check for it and le mt to know if you have received my email or not?-Hi again; I don't know if you have received my newer email or not????

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Re: Dear Sir/Madam; I just redirected a page from wikipedia from Talkheh Rud toAji Chai. Which originally created by myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.99.4.93 (talk) 23:12, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aji

Did you actually read the speedy tag on Aji Chai? The alleged source was not a Wikipedia page. However, I am going to assume that the copyvio is the other way round - they have copied Wikipedia without reproducing the licence.

But you did make a serious mistake: you claim "page just moved from title Talkhe Rud". No you did not, you copy&pasted which throws away the edit history. I have fixed that.

Also what earthly purpose was Aji chai (disambiguation) supposed to serve? It was not a disambiguation page and nothing pointed to it. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 00:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are right somehow and I copied and paste from Talkheh-Rūd to Aji Chai, however it means same as moving from Talkheh Rud to Aji Chai, doesn't it? Thank you for your attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M karzarj (talk • contribs)

No, no, no - they are not the same. When you copy&pasted, all the edit history remained at Talkheh-Rūd so it was not possible to see who had contributed to the article. If you move, all the history moves at the same time. If you cannot do a move because there is something blocking the target, use {{Db-pagemove}} to get an admin to do it. Do not copy and paste. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 18:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Messy editing

Hi Dear Mr Karzarj,

First of all I should say I usually check my msg's, you had forgotten to sign in then put your msg so there was no wiki id in your first msg. I saw just an IP adrs and I was not able to answer you.

Seconde,

you have mentioned: "we have to use just a limited numbers of the photos" and "by Wikipedia standards". How many photos per page is standard by wikipedia exactly?

you have mentioed: "it is also it is hard to read article with so many photos apearing in right and left side of the page" and " I think it is better to not using the photos in left hand side". Please have a look to pages of these most important cities of the world: London, Paris, Moscow, NY, Sydney, Istanbul, Tokyo, Rome, Baku, Tehran, Washington DC. where is the photos? just in right hand?

you have mentioned: "It is better not to using an image from same monument more than one time". Please have a look too Tehran's page. How many times the wiki-editors of that page have used the photo of Milad Tower? Is there any wiki standard about this?

These r the numbers of photos of famous cities I mentioned above:

no of ph.in Right hand........no of ph. in Left hand.......no of ph. in the Middle

London 24 6 3
Paris 18 13 3
Moscow 43 30 1 ***
New York 20 9 1
Istanbul 33 8 4
Tehran 18 9 9

Tabriz 27 17 3

Do you still think there is too much photos in page of Tabriz for example in compare of page of Moscow?

Also please be avoid of:

1- Messy editing which you mostly had done in page of Tabriz e.g. in part of "Photos Gallery". You had put the photos of ancient monuments of Qajar era near the photos of modern streets. It looked too messy.

2- Uploading low quality photos for this prestigious encyclopaedia, In one of your photos (Tabriz-vicinity.JPG) your finger has been on the lens!!! but you had uploaded!!! this photo and had put it in the gallery of Tabriz. your other photos mostly have these problems: 1- wrong side of the monuments( e.g. Tabriz Ghari Bridge.jpg), 2- wrong focus, 3- messy (e.g. Tabriz-amriye.JPG, Arksiege.JPG) 4- low quality (e.g. Tabrizave.JPG, Tabrizdoc.jpg).

Regards my friend,

-Pournick

Hi again

Dear friend, Tnx for your patience for messaging, I gonna try to answer you sentence by sentence.

You have written: "but it is only Tabriz that has a tag on its header". Yeah, thats right, but as I understand it supposed to be because of some grammatical mistakes, spelling, etc. not because of numbers of photos, if your english is good enough pls read whole text and correct the mistakes, tnx.

You have written: "the number of the photos for this cities are proportional to their text". Thats exactly right but pls improve the texts about Tabriz and its photos instead of deleting the photos, its much better.

You have written: "Some of the photos are belong to attraction of other cities of East Azerbaijan Province". The only photo which is belonging to somewhere else is (Zonouz11.jpg) that I have put it in section of "Regional Tourist Attractions", a brief guide for who wants to know about Tourist Attractions around Tabriz, I deleted the rest.

You have written: "There are some photos for a monument that shows the same thing a same view". Which photo do u mean exactly? There is some photos of different views (inside, outside)of same monuments like The Blue mosque because of its importance as a architectural master piece or (old, new) photos of Ark, thats it. There is no photos of a monuments same view, same thing.

You have written: "We wanna to create a beautiful realistic article about Tabriz not a copy of Moscow or anywhere else". I didnt want to copy the page of Moscow or ... either, but when I want to add a section to Tabriz I mostly had a look to pages of other cities as a good refrences, also I think the page of Tabriz is more beautiful in compare of pages of other Iranian cities like Shiraz,Isfahan or Mashhad, which part is unrealistic or unbeautiful according to you? If you think the photos I have taken show the city more beautiful than it is, beleive me the other cities of the world are not as beautiful as their photos as well, I have been to Sydney for 3 years and the photos of Sydeny in its page show Sydney more beautiful than it is, coz its art of phorography.

You have written: "if you think that the order of them is not correct please reorder them rather than undoing whole of the modification. I did reorder them as well not only undoing whole of the modification, you would check it out.

You have written: "you undid the section about: Capital of Iran, modification in references, sister city and the box at the end of the article". Which box? I just undid the section of sister cities coz some one edited it horizontaly which dose not look good, the others if you r sure probably has been done by mistake.

You have written: "I think that we are in the same boat and both of us are about making a good article for Tabriz so may be our contribution together and with other users helps to improve the quality of the article". Exactly, I agree, thats why I undid your edition coz everyone who are editing the page of Tabriz (Iranians or foreigners)have accepted its current structure for a long time before your radical edition.

Regards my friend,

-Pournick

Azerbaijan or Azarbaijan again

Salam ! As I said in Tabriz talk page , that is neither logical to translate all of a proper name to English (West Azerbaijan) nor a part of it (West Azarbaijan) . But overall , that is routine to chose the dominant name in other articles in relevant pages .I mean perhaps the "Azarbaijan-e Gharbi" is the best alternative , without translation of any part to English , but due to the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names), The "West Azarbaijan" is the Widely accepted name, and if we want to change it in that special article , at least we have to change all the pages and all the templates and all the redirects that use that ( I mean Azarbaijan-e Gharbi) . Until reaching a consensus , the best thing possible is to use the current dominant name : West Azarbaijan.
Sagh olasan
--Alborz Fallah (talk) 09:39, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A debate is ongoing in the Tabriz talk page . Please don't change West Azarbaijan to West Azerbaijan until we reach a result in the talk page , and please participate in the dialogue if you have special points of views . Thank you so much .--Alborz Fallah (talk) 18:15, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Tabriz City Photo Gallery

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RE:

I undid your change because you altered a direct quote from the Encyclopaedia of Islam which is an authoritative academic source. The first sentence of the article is is a direct quote that cannot be changed. Cheers. Tajik (talk) 12:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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