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ISBN

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That ISBN is not an error. I don't know why databases don't recognize it, but its not an error. Use a search engine instead and the right book will come up.Rajmaan (talk) 06:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Rajmaan: You're talking about "0-87075-25-9", right? It is definitely an invalid ISBN. A valid ISBN is either 10 or 13 digits long, and ends with a check digit that is determined algorithmically by the other 9 or 12 digits. I built an ISBN tool that can evaluate ISBNs and offer potential corrections. It flags "0-87075-25-9" as incorrect (only 9 digits), and offers 0-87075-025-9 among the suggestions, which leads to this entry on WorldCat that corroborates the correction. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 16:27, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, do you know anything about this user? Just realized this as a potential admin spoof, although given that account's behavior, I think there has been nothing disruptive. Just an FYI — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 15:52, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Andy M. Wang: Looks like a coincidence; innocuous to date. Thanks for letting me know. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 16:15, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
21:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC) 20:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Banff, Macduff and Turriff Junction Railway.

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In the body part of the article, there is mention made of Banff and Macduff railway station but it is somewhat confusing as it is not clear if that station lay on this line or on a branch running from it. On the RDT incorporated with the article, that station is the only station shown in red.

If in fact, that station does not lie on this branch line, as the RDT shows, can the RDT be duly amended to show a chord connectionto another line.

Paul Sidorczuk (talk) 21:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Paul Sidorczuk: I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the subject matter; my only contribution to Banff, Macduff and Turriff Junction Railway was to fix an ISBN. However, if you're asking about the route diagram, that's generated (and edited) at Template:Banff, Macduff and Turriff Junction RDT, and there's some help documentation at Wikipedia:Route diagram template that would probably be useful. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 18:13, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 2016

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Fixed. Dunno why AWB added that. :/ {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 04:52, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]


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Whoops, typo. Fixed. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 01:11, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Technical Barnstar
Hello.

It is a pleasure to present the Technical Barnstar in recognition of your good work in converting {{About}} to a Lua module.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 17:31, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]


@Codename Lisa: Thank you! I'm glad to have gotten the conversion done. :) {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 18:08, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The only remaining templates are: {{About-distinguish}}, {{Redirect6}}, {{Redirect7}}, {{Redirect-distinguish}}, {{Technical reasons}}. —Codename Lisa (talk) 19:06, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Double plays in baseball

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One Double play not covered on the Wickipedia page that is very rare and hard to complete is the 3-6, what makes this hard to turn is once the Firstbaseman fields the grounder and tags first the runner has to be tagged out on the his attempt to second base as he is now able to return to first and can't be forced at second. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2016‎ 2600:100d:b00a:a10f:fc91:47e7:b3ae:49 (talk) 20:03, 9 May 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

Uh … I'm not sure why you're telling me this; my only edit to Double play is pretty tangential to the content. How can I help? {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 20:14, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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This Month in GLAM: April 2016

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Lj

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.7.215.58 (talk) 19:28, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be nonsense. Meaningful responses require comprehensible queries. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 03:03, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:other people

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Hello Nihiltres. Your change to {{other people}} has changed the functionality of this template. When used with zero or one parameter, the template is supposed to pipe the link through the (disambiguation) redirect to indicate that the link to the disambiguation page is intentional (per WP:INTDABLINK). Please undo the change to the Lua module until such time as this functionality is corrected. Thanks! -Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 21:22, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For posterity: I replied at the Village Pump thread; the change was reverted by me, then reimplemented by me once fixed. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 03:06, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
16:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

NihiltresBot edit

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Hello, it's not really harmful as such, but NihiltresBot's edit to Kangaroo Island didn't really do anything of consequence. Graham87 05:30, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Graham87: Yeah, that was the result of some substituted wikitext parsing out to nothing, but there still being a capitalization change. It'll ignore capitalization next time, which would make edits like that become null edits. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 16:33, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey

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This Month in GLAM: May 2016

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18:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC) 19:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC) 15:42, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Module main

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Hi. I am just a bit curious about your change to Module:Main. Why did you do that? Qed237 (talk) 22:36, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Qed237: I'd like to update the module with the code currently in the module sandbox, but there's a minor breaking change in that update, which is that cases with no parameters specified will output an error message and category instead of, oddly, linking back to themselves as a "main" article. To make sure that the breaking change isn't harmful, I've added tracking to see which pages it might affect (and fix them, since it's usually a mistake when that template isn't given any parameters). The edit I've made categorizes affected pages into Category:Hatnote templates using unusual parameters. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 22:43, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I think I understand (and I trust you). I was just caught of guard (late at night here) with a lot of error messages on a page I edited, and wondered what is going on. Then I immediately reverted the module as it is highly visible, and wanted to re-assure myself that the editor (in this case you) know what they were doing (which by the looks of it, you do). Have a nice evening. Qed237 (talk) 22:51, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Qed237: Yeah, I made a stupid mistake, using the variable pageType instead of pagetype, proving that even straightforward changes aren't foolproof. Thanks for catching it. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 22:55, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Editing News #2—2016

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19:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Redirect TfD closed as merge

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I closed the redirect TfD as merge. Courtesy ping — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 21:22, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll get right on implementing the merge, then. :) {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 21:29, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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This Month in GLAM: June 2016

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courtesy note regarding Lillian Cornell

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Hi Nihiltres, I'm just letting you know Lillian Cornell has been recreated, a page you deleted several years ago. The new author, whom I trust greatly, has easily established notability. All the best, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 01:10, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Nihiltres, per your BRFA approval, your bot account has been flagged. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 14:00, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I've blocked the creator of this and NINIT as socks. Just thought you should know. Doug Weller talk 13:55, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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This Month in GLAM: August 2016

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Question about your revision

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Revision.

How is changing “for” to “other uses” simplifying it?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 02:39, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@PapiDimmi: It's closer to the output. {{For}} produces a generic "For X, see Y" message, while {{other uses}} specifically produces a "For other uses, see X" message. It also happens to be more intuitive for newbies, since {{other uses}} is relatively self-explanatory, while it'd be a leap to guess that {{for}} led to defaulting that produced the text "other uses" (one of these days, I should replace the defaulting with an error message). I'll admit, the edit summary's a bit awkward there, but I'm more used to cases like changing {{for|other uses|…}}{{other uses|…}}, and I used the same edit summary as with those other edits. See also Category:Hatnote templates using unusual parameters, which collects similar cases. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 21:57, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yahoo Answers

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Wow, I just found you on Yahoo Answers! I can't believe it. 2605:6001:E484:1000:2D4E:CF9B:BDC5:126 (talk) 07:25, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

22:09, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

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Little request

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Hi Nihiltres, remember this? I have noticed that the tool is no longer a prototype, so I am now using the production version, so to speak. I have a little request. Would it be possible for the page to check the input on the url and to copy that input directly into the ISBN input text field? For instance http://ataraxic.net/isbn-tool?input=9876543210987 That way I could just select a bare ISBN on some web page, right click, and directly open your page with the selected input already in place. Would save some time . Cheers, and TIA! - DVdm (talk) 13:27, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note, in a pure HTML with some js I do this as follows:

// ========================================================
// thanks: http://www.bloggingdeveloper.com/post/JavaScript-QueryString-ParseGet-QueryString-with-Client-Side-JavaScript.aspx
function getQuerystring(key, default_) {
  if (default_==null) default_="";
  key = key.replace(/[\[]/,"\\\[").replace(/[\]]/,"\\\]");
  var regex = new RegExp("[\\?&]"+key+"=([^&#]*)");
  var qs = regex.exec(window.location.href);
  if(qs == null)
    return default_;
  else
    return qs[1];
}
// ========================================================
function InitInput() {
  window.document.interfaceform.inputstring.value = getQuerystring('input');
}
...
<BODY onload="InitInput()">
...

You'd have to replace my "inputstring.value" with something like "isbnInput.value" - DVdm (talk) 13:34, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@DVdm: Heh. The "main" version is still a bit of a prototype, strictly speaking. I originally wrote the tool completely in JS … then I engaged my brain for a second, and checked to find that the Terms of Use for the ISBN International website prohibit republishing or distributing the ISBN data, which is necessary in a JavaScript version since everything's executed client-side. Moreover, the organization doesn't support CORS for the RangeMessage.xml file, meaning it can't just be loaded dynamically. Whoops. I then taught myself PHP and rewrote the tool so that the main processing happens server-side as a basic API (thereby hiding the range data file from the user), and the "main" version uses a quick conversion of the UI to accomodate querying the API rather than calculating values directly.
I've since been working on a newer prototype, which should eventually have an actually decent UI, if I can just get around to finishing it properly. To reduce maintenance, I'm not updating the "main" version (barring bug reports), but leaving it as a stable version until the prototype's ready.
Anyway, I added a module to the prototype to do exactly what you've asked; adding ?input=123456789 or similar to the URL will now automatically load and process that input (live example). Glad you're finding the tool useful. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 18:51, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, http://ataraxic.net/isbn-tool/prototype/?input=9781609458638 works. NIce new lay-out, but with one new problem though: when I try to mouse-select the hyphenated result, all the output fields and their captions get selected. Of course I only want to copy/paste the hyphenated result ... - DVdm (talk) 19:08, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@DVdm: Yeah, that's an issue with using the (semantically good) definition list elements; they don't select well. In my own use of the tool I got around the issue by triple-clicking, but you've got a good point, so I've added some CSS that should enable clean single-click selection, but only on modern browsers. I'll have to look into a better solution for older browsers, but this solution's progressive enhancement, so it's probably acceptable for now. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 19:42, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, indeed triple click seemed to work here too. Single click also works perfect now. Thanks a bunch! - DVdm (talk) 19:50, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Used it twice already . - DVdm (talk) 21:21, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This Month in GLAM: September 2016

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Editing News #3—2016

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  • The "Save" button now says "Save page" when you create a page, and "Save changes" when you change an existing page.[164] In the future, the "Save page" button will say "Publish page". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.
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The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining 10 "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next month. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including Thai, Burmese and Aramaic.

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. The 2017 wikitext editor will look like the visual editor and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices in October 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

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Bee-eater

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Hi, I've noticed you doing some technical fixes to refs in my last two FACs. As a sort of pre-emptive strike, I wonder if you would be kind enough to cast a beady eye over the references for bee-eater, which I will nominate in the near future? Thanks for any help you can give, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:46, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jimfbleak: I'm glad to. I've given it a bit of a polish; I'm almost certainly missing something but it's a good pre-nom. start. It feels like 90% of the work was replacing | author = Hoyo, Josep del; Elliott, Andrew; Sargatal, Jordi; Christie, David A.; de Juana, Eduardo (eds.) with |editor1-last=del Hoyo |editor1-first=Josep |editor2-last=Elliott |editor2-first=Andrew |editor3-last=Sargatal |editor3-first=Jordi |editor4-last=Christie |editor4-first=David A. |editor5-last=de Juana |editor5-first=Eduardo; I'll try to fix that construct in a few other articles too. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 14:44, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks, that looks great. I'll use this as a model for my next venture. For some reason, I thoughy the "editor" parameter was out of favour, obviously I was wrong! I wonder if you could clarify a couple of things for me. I note that you put ref names in quote marks, I wondered what's the rationale for this, since they work without quotes as long as they are single words? Also, what's the reason for taking out the white space between the | and each of the parameters in the refs? I'm not doubting your actions, just wondering why these conventions have arisen, thanks again Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:35, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jimfbleak:
  • I haven't heard anything about "editor" parameters being out of favour, though I've noted that plural authors and editors parameters are in line to be deprecated (atomic author/editor names being preferable). Most of that's just clarity stuff that'll be really helpful for long-term stuff like migrating citations to Wikidata.
  • The quote marks on ref names just match the format of XML, which the tags imitate; negligible on our end but might be helpful long-term or for reusers. I use regular expressions to tweak a whole page with just a couple of taps to "replace all".
  • The whitespace is mostly personal preference: I find the format I used more readable (removes the unnecessary visual noise of isolated pipes and equals signs), which makes it easier to spot issues. I do like that the format tends to use less whitespace overall (large articles might contain upward of a kilobyte of unnecessary spaces). Again, regex makes it trivial to apply.
The whitespace and quotes are stuff so trivial no one will agree on regulating it with a guideline, but also so trivial I can get away with tweaking the article so making useful fixes is easier. :) {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 16:21, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
16:18, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Redirect of Ken Bone (Political Activist)

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I'm redirecting Ken Bone (Political Activist) to United_States_presidential_election_debates,_2016#Reception_3 where he is discussed, and that was what was agreed on the afd you linked. Thanks, AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 21:03, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@AlessandroTiandelli333: Good call. :) {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 21:06, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
23:01, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: October 2016

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Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins

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19:18, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers

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Hi Nihiltres.

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Fetch data from Wikidata

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Hello. About Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Fetch data from Wikidata. Can you explain me where to put that code? Xaris333 (talk) 13:51, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Xaris333: You'd put the code in a wrapper function, then put the wrapper function on a Module-namespace page, then call the module using {{#invoke:}}.
So here's what could be used for the module code:
p = {}
function p.main ()
	--get current page's Wikidata entity
	local wde = mw.wikibase.getEntity()
	--get raw value of P115
	local p115 = wde and wde["claims"]["P115"][1]["mainsnak"]["datavalue"]["value"]["id"]
	--get Wikidata entity for venue. Note that this step counts as expensive.
	local venueEntity = p115 and mw.wikibase.getEntity(p115)
	--get capacity value for venue
	local capacity = venueEntity and venueEntity["claims"]["P1083"][1]["mainsnak"]["datavalue"]["value"]["amount"]
	--format the capacity value according to the local language rules
	capacityString = capacity and mw.language.getContentLanguage():formatNum(tonumber(capacity))

	return capacityString
end

return p
In this version I've added a function wrapper, and I also chained things so that it'd fail more gracefully. Then, you'd put it on a module page and invoke the result in the template: {{#invoke:name_of_module_page|main}}.
Keep in mind that I'm not very experienced with pulling from Wikidata, and my code here is sloppy and fragile—I'm offering it because it should solve your problem in the short term, not because it's the best solution. :/ {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 15:05, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have done it. It works. But there is a problem when there is no property P1083 at stadium's item. We get an error message. I have also tried to do the same about the place of the stadium. But, now we have an item, not a number. So, I quess I have done something wrong. Is not working. el:Module:Τοπσταδίουομαδας. Xaris333 (talk) 12:33, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Xaris333: OK, I took a look and fixed the most obvious bug in this edit this change; does that fix it? You're also using P131 instead of P1083 (?), which could require slightly different code because it'd be a different sort of data. (Keep in mind that I can't read Greek, just its alphabet.) {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 15:22, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I wasn't clear. There are 2 things. On for the capacity and one for the place of the stadium.

I see what you have done and I tried to do the same to the capacity Module. Now is working at ok. Pls see el:Module:Χωρσταδίουομαδας to check it.

Add more important: Please check el:Module:Τοπσταδίουομαδας. Its for the place of the stadium. Now the value is an item, not a number. Xaris333 (talk) 15:31, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Xaris333: OK, I think I've got it working as intended. Would you please confirm for me? :) {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 15:49, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Its working. But the place is not link. It is show Nicosia and not Nicosia. Xaris333 (talk) 15:55, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Xaris333: Updated to add linking. :) {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 16:15, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Its working! Thanks! May I ask more questions the next days? :) Xaris333 (talk) 16:21, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Important Problem to both modules: If a property has more than one values, it is shows the first one. For example, lets say that Dog FC has two stadiums, Old Dog Stadium and the Dog Arena. Dog Arena is rank as preferred at Wikidata but it is the second place. In the article, the stadium that it is showed is the Dog Arena. But the capacity and the place are taken for the Old Dog Stadium which is the first in Wikidata page of the club. Xaris333 (talk) 17:55, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can you solve the problem? Xaris333 (talk) 12:43, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, had to revert your changes (as well as mine)

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Hi, I've reverted a set of changes that you and I made to Viburnum dilatatum because it is one of a group of pages being worked on as part of a course. The course apparently ends 9 December. (It would be good if there were a warning banner on each of those pages in the meantime.) Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:46, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Sminthopsis84: I've reverted you in turn. Courses do not own articles, and the rest of us are free to edit in the meantime. If students or their instructors want their work to remain undisturbed by other editors, they should at least not post their work to the article namespace. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 14:42, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. In this case a lot of pages are involved, and the changes are extensive and disruptive. I think we will have to revert most of it, but in the meantime it seems inappropriate to improve the work of some students, with the possible result that those students will do better in the course. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:45, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Sminthopsis84: The instructor should be checking the page history to take non-student contributions into account; things like that are the cost of working in Wikipedia's collaborative environment. If the instructor's got an account (haven't checked yet) I'll mention this discussion to them. The instructor should be able to deal with us reverting or fixing low-quality edits without that being an automatic fail or grade penalty—we should not have meaningful power to help or hurt students' grades directly. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 15:08, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Sminthopsis84: I posted on the instructor's talk page at User talk:Isoetid § "Collaborative grading" mentioning this discussion and asking for their input. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 15:31, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm the instructor of the course. I appreciate the message and discussion. I had hoped and counseled the students not to "overwrite" short stubs or more developed existing articles but to move pieces of their writing over bit by bit, but they quickly figured out that you can use the Move function from their respective Sandboxes, and alas many of them took the path of least resistance (for them). Of course please make edits or revert their changes as you or anyone in the community see's fit at any time. I asked them to send me a word document with their article that I am using for grading, please don't feel you or anyone else needs to wait for me to grade the live wikipedia pages. Thank you for your consideration. Isoetid (talk) 17:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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