User talk:PersecutedUser

Welcome to Wikipedia!!!

Hello PersecutedUser! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I am happy to be the first person to welcome you to English Wikipedia! I have prepared this welcome message to help you with your continued adventure here, check out the links below or just visit the new contributors' help page! Happy Editing! Chris Troutman (talk) 22:43, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Getting Started: Tutorials and Training

Click on "show" to the right to expand

We have some interactive tutorials and trainings you may want to try:

And some regular articles you can just read:

Getting Help: How and Where to Ask a Question?

Click on "show" to the right to expand

There are numerous ways you can ask for help.

You can ask me on my talk page.
You can copy and place {{helpme}} with your accompanying question on the bottom of your talk page and someone else will show up shortly to answer your questions here.
You can try one of the specialized fora listed at the "Where to ask a question" page.
If you prefer live chat, try #wikipedia-en-help IRC chat room. Click here to get connected through your browser!

Please remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date

On a final note, you may want to try the new (beta) VisualEditor, check out our weekly newspaper, the Wikipedia Signpost, and join a WikiProject of interest to you. WikiProjects gather editors interested in certain topic areas, providing them with information, tools and a place to discuss the topic in question. . For a list of all WikiProjects, see here. Joining a WikiProject makes the Wikipedia experience much richer! Chris Troutman (talk) 22:43, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Troutman (talk) 22:43, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

STOP

I'm not sure why you would choose a username like "PersecutedUser" but we can persecute you if earn our ignominy. I assume that you're a sock of another user, in which case you will be found out and blocked. If my assessment of you is true, please just leave now and save us all some time. If not, then let's talk.

I notice you've been on a tear removing Category:Hungarian monarchs and replacing it with Category:Kings of Hungary because Hungarian monarchs was placed in the Category:Roman Catholic monarchs, all without any prior discussion except one user talk page. This is unwise. People like Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor were Hungarian monarchs. That category likely exists rather than have separate categories for kings, queens, princes, etc. of Hungary. Just because one or two of those monarchs weren't Catholic doesn't mean you should unilaterally change categories.

So, you can stop and discuss, or we'll go to ANI, you'll be blocked and your changes reverted. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:58, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Chris troutman - The change was made per Wikipedia:Be bold. 99% of the changes here are made unilaterally, so I don't understand your hostility. Of course that I am ready to discuss this if there are objections, you don't need to threated me with reports. I created the category Category:Kings of Hungary while having the pattern Category:Kings of France. The supercategory is Category:European kings. I also created Category:Queens regnant of Hungary which is a subcat of Category:Queens regnant (similarly to Category:Queens regnant in the British Isles). I removed Category:Hungarian monarchs from those articles per WP:SUBCAT: "A page or category should rarely be placed in both a category and a subcategory or parent category (supercategory) of that category (unless the child category is non-diffusing).".

PS Initially I hadn't expected that there will be needed 2 different categories (Kings and Queens), but after a number of changes I noticed that we also have 2 queens (Mary, Queen of Hungary and Maria Theresa) and I chose this instead of reverting everything. PersecutedUser (talk) 06:24, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Why? Just because you are empowered to empty out a category you seem to not like and replace with another does not mean you should. I see no logical reason for the change. Don't claim that SUBCAT forces you to remove a category; you created the child category, and for what? Unless I see good reason for the change, I'm going to start reverting all your changes. Then we can discuss on an applicable talk page and maybe request for comment. If you have a good reason, let's hear it.

So you know, a rapid series of changes catches my attention in a way that incremental changes do not. The last time I caught someone making mass category changes like this, the editor was a POV warrior and a sockpuppet. While this situation isn't the same, my "hostility" comes from experience and gut instinct. Chris Troutman (talk) 06:35, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Chris troutman This is not about liking and not liking a category. This is about organizing cateogries in a more tidy way. I already gave you the motivation for this category creation: the existence of Category:European kings. If you are so allergic at this new category, I ask you myself to revert those changes (hopefully you have a mass-reverting tool, cause making those changes was quite time-consuming). I assure you that I won't add this stuff back. PersecutedUser (talk) 07:02, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Per this request, I have reverted all the recatagorisations. --Mdann52talk to me! 14:31, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Mdann52 thanks for your promptitude. PersecutedUser (talk) 14:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Thank you for your effort to compromise. I've started this discussion to help determine consensus. Please make your case there as I'm not going to join that conversation. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:01, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

July 2014

Hello, I'm BracketBot. I have automatically detected that your edit to Land of Hațeg may have broken the syntax by modifying 2 "()"s. If you have, don't worry: just edit the page again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on my operator's talk page.

List of unpaired brackets remaining on the page:

,<ref>[http://books.google.ro/books?id=_WcsAQAAIAAJ&q=%C5%A2ara+Ha%C5%A3egului+%7Bterra+Harszoc)+apare+%C3%AEntr-o+prim%C4%83+atestare+documentar%C4%83.+1247&dq=%C5%A2ara+Ha%C5%A3egului+%
AEntr-o+prim%C4%83+atestare+documentar%C4%83.+1247&dq=%C5%A2ara+Ha%C5%A3egului+%7Bterra+Harszoc)+apare+%C3%AEntr-o+prim%C4%83+atestare+documentar%C4%83.+1247&hl=ro&sa=X&ei=

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, BracketBot (talk) 06:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Queens regnant of Hungary has been nominated for discussion

Category:Queens regnant of Hungary, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]