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Your submission at Articles for creation: Vicwest (May 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Tol was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Tol (talk | contribs) @ 16:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tol,

Thank you so much for the feedback! Is there any particular reference you found here that does not meet the requirements? This is an article about a company that had a dispute with the Competiton Bureau of Canada over its acquisition by the UK's largest building materials manufacturer. It made news in Canada at the time - if more news-worthy sources are necessary, I can provide them as citations.

Please let me know! Tyzenx222 (talk) 17:26, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Vicwest (May 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Curb Safe Charmer was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please read WP:NCORP.

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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:19, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there,

I saw you redirect me to read WP:NCORP, however, I believe the following article satisfies the following example of notability:

Examples of substantial coverage

Examples of substantial coverage that would generally be sufficient to meet the requirement:

A news article discussing a prolonged controversy regarding a corporate merger

This is a business case involving directly the Competition Bureau of Canada in the building materials industry.

Please advise on how to proceed, and thank you for the feedback. Tyzenx222 (talk) 19:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The sources you've given are WP:PRIMARY. You'll need to provide WP:SECONDARY sources. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:55, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clarifying that the cited sources are the issue. Notably, all of the sources I have provided are secondary, apart from the one directly from the Competition Bureau of Canada which has been corrected. May I resubmit directly to you once more? Tyzenx222 (talk) 20:04, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Vicwest (May 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Curb Safe Charmer were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Press releases (e.g. Bloomberg, Newswire, Facsen) don't help establish notability. Fasken is a WP:PRIMARY source. The Globe and Mail, Irish Times are not WP:SIGCOV.

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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 20:33, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there,

I am not sure I understand what the issue is here. These are all secondary sources, Fasken is not directly related to the companies involved in the Competition Bureau of Canada case - they are one of Canada's leading legal firms reporting on the issue given the large sums of money exchanged. The Globe and Mail I would argue does qualify as significant coverage given that they are one of Canada's largest news publications. Similarly, this applies to the Irish Times as well given that Kingspan is an Irish institution.

Please help me understand what is incorrect here. Tyzenx222 (talk) 20:38, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The deal is documented on the Fasken website because Fasken's legal team advised on it. This means the reference is not from an independent source, and is a primary source because they are reporting on it as witnesses to the deal. The Globe and Mail may be a large news publication, but the coverage in the reference is just revenue and profit figures - there's no analysis or commentary. The Irish Times coverage is three short paragraphs, reporting the event but no analysis or commentary so is not significant coverage.

What's your connection with the company? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:42, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Vicwest (May 13)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Curb Safe Charmer was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.

Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:31, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there,

I replaced the Fasken source; I did not know they were the legal advisors. I removed the Globe and Mail citation, and replaced it with a Yahoo Finance article with in-depth analysis on the topic. I removed the Irish Times coverage, and replace it with Reuters, which is one of wikipedia's Tier 1 SIGCOV's. What have I incorrectly submitted? Tyzenx222 (talk) 16:36, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 03:06, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Vicwest

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:15, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]