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Barber

Yes, I'm probably going for GA. There's a book I'm getting hold of this weekend that I want to check first to see if there's anything else about him. I might stick up the Yorkshire captaincy crisis of 1927 as well. I've been a bit sidetracked recently. Had to do stuff for Rhodes after PR and getting a bit bogged down with Jardine - have to do his after cricket stuff and a bit about what a charming man he was! Also getting sidetracked on redoing George Macaulay, another obscure Yorkshire cricketer. Like the idea of the Warner/Woodfull stuff. I've got the Frith Bodyline book as ref and I think there's some in Jardine's biography. There's a Warner biography as well which I may be able to find. I keep meaning to do stuff on the mess that is the Bodyline article but other stuff keeps getting in the way! There's probably lots of other Bodyline articles that could be done too. --Sarastro1 (talk) 11:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

We could write articles on all five Tests, the Adelaide one has its own and this was as big as 1948 if not bigger, at least the first 3 games were. YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 01:25, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

The Fingo biog has about six pages just on the blame game with the leak and how Fingo told Woodfull that he got discriminated against in selection for it. Have you seen the ABC documentary where they interview C Douglas, Frith and Woodcock? As well as Woodfull Jr... and then I said I was going to write an article about all of Bradman's controversies with the Catholics and the other power struggles, but never did. YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 04:06, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

The fourth was probably the most exciting, though, and the fifth had lots of drama! --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

No ABC documentary over here, I'm afraid. Frith has loads in Bodyline autopsy and sort of comes to the conclusion that it was Bradman who leaked. Bradman and O'Reilly and/or Fingleton would be a good article; or with Grimmett. The English side would probably stretch to a Jardine article. Or Plum Warner. And I'm sure the whole story of the cables and the diplomacy would make a good article. The list is potentially endless! Or stick some in the main bodyline article. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

It probably wouldn't have anything not in BA, although it did mention stuff not in the current article such as Larwood's foot and not being allowed to go off until Bradman was out. Still, for W/W I say just stick to Frith and Growden's book on Fingo rather than the popular best-seller type books as most of these indulged in hagiography of Bradman and Fingo/Tiger bashing at every turn. Especially as Bradman only talked with writers who would do propaganda for him such as Roland Perry (who also averages an error every page and only paraphrases Fingo's work, ironically); Perry actually turned up on Wiki last year as Haruspex101 (talk · contribs) to edit-war and try adn whitewash his article with his CV YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 01:12, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Wally Hammond...

is at FAC. I have massaged the prose a bit but might need some more eyes. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:40, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I noticed that. I did some clean-up on it in the past two months but given the events of Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ian Meckiff/archive1 I'm not sure whether I'll improve the article with my edits and I'm not noticiing any change in my writing style. Given that Brianboulton did the PR, and has never been shy of stopping any cricket FAC (since 2009 every cricket writer who submitted to FAC has gotten at least one oppose from him), I'm not sure why he wouldn't have bothered to bite if he felt it necessary. Still, the guys at WP:CRIC never pipe up on FACs anymore for whatever reason YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 04:06, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

The review is not really going anywhere and everything is a bit vague and woolly. I think it's probably doomed this time! After months of no-one commenting, everyone jumps in at the end! When it inevitably fails, I think I'll do a good copy-edit and try and make it less (and I quote) "deadly dull". --Sarastro1 (talk) 14:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't make the prose "entertaining" then heaps of people will say that it is too newspapery. You might even be accused of doing a tabloid job. And no it's not too long. Are you going to keep the pruned information for a fork, or so aren't going to bother with the details on and on like Miller (which has 150+k prose including all the forks) YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm keeping the info, but I'm not sure there's enough for an article. Maybe early career? His illness would be good but not enough stuff. I can see why people say it's too long, to be fair. I don't think so, but I'm an obsessive! I just don't know what should come out. If someone will tell me which bits aren't relevant enough, then I might fork them. I might do something similar with Rhodes. Quite a bit has come out, but I've kept it and might make an article. The trick is condensing 30 year careers into something readable but keeping them comprehensive. I was going to do Hutton and Sutcliffe when I finally finish Jardine, but they had long careers too. It's actually easier with Barber and the Obscure Yorkshire Cricketers (sounds like a band) as there's hardly anything on them. But I'll plough on as the coverage of pre WW2 English cricketers is not good. --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I thought with a 250 page bio there could be tons milked, unless it was a picture book and have size-14 writing or something :) But I would have thought there were tons more about all the 1938 and 1946-47 captaincy stuff, which was pretty controversial, and if you can't find more books or just a general history book, have you ever used the CricketArchive oracle which lists all the games and scores in chron order; eg then you could describe his run of 1,000 in a month or whatever if the books doesn't have it. (That's what I had to do for Alyssa Healy as there are only 5 articles in total on Cricinfo, and most only mention her in 2-3 sentences) It should be easy to pad out -> Keith Miller in the 1946–47 Australian cricket season. With Barber etc you could also pad them up with the stats list, eg SGGH (talk · contribs) on Frank Vigar. Well to be honest, WP:CRIC is a bit like cricket pre-1960, only Aus and Eng have decent coverage. Overall I find that for some reason CC seems to be very big in England, as if you check the cats for deomstic teams, heaps of the counties have 400+ articles but many Aus states only have 100, despite there being less states to do. YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 03:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the work on Hammond. I've added the Bristol manager and over the next few days I want to go over it myself too to make sure it all still makes sense and to try and improve the flow a bit. However, when the 2 weeks is up, I think I might put up Rhodes first, as it's had a peer review from Brian and although he still has issues with the length, I think it's in better shape. It just needs Alttext and a source for the two pictures. I know where one came from and I think I can find a source for the other so I can sort that, and they are both PD as they are from pre WWI. It may need some sort of graphic for his bowling or no graphs at all as the non-cricket people may be asking questions, like Brian did. Once Hammond has been tidied, I will put it up for GAR first. I've just about finished expanding Douglas Jardine, just needs a few things on his captaincy and a good copy edit, and I've also done George Macaulay. If you have a spare moment, could you have a quick look? I'm hoping to put them up for GAN and then take it from there. Finally, I'm just about done on the last lot of things I was working on: I've got some stuff for Hutton on the go, and want to do Roy Kilner, another Yorkshire one which should be quite short. So, if you still want to work on some Bodyline stuff, I could start having a look. I would like to tackle the main article which is still in a bit of a state, but it seems quite a big job! Not sure what we could call the Warner/Woodfull thing: the Adelaide leak?

I'll take a look at Rhodes. Maybe with Hammond BB got tired and didn't bother going through everything but definitely he would point out the things about using the same synonym twice in teh same sentence or back-to-back in FACs, normally, and Tony would also notice the "with Hammond batting/bowling/verbings". Bowling graphs are hopeless, they never get used on TV and you can put Hammong on GAN now, it's eaily GA class. You should have seen the Sourav Ganguly GAN, it had fake book refs and was passed anyway with bits missing over my objection. Warner-Woodful incident should be good enough. About biog forks, there's heaps more on Hammonds's 1928-29 WR isn't there? discussing the details of the big centuries and all that, and as I said, for obscure things eg women's cricketers eg Alyssa Healy and obscure FC players, scorecard mining is unavoiable YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Put Hammond up for GAN. I'll probably put up Macaulay and Jardine for GAN at some point, but might wait until Barber and/or Hammond have come off: too many cricketers! Thanks for copy-edits so far on Mac and Jardine, I need to have another look myself. I've a few more things to put into the Yorkshire Captaincy Crisis article, but I think that one will run out of legs shortly. For Hammond, I may do more on his early life (up to his Test debut) as that has mileage, and 28-29 would be a good one. That's another series worth a few articles. --Sarastro1 (talk) 10:28, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

You should put Macca and Dougie up for GAN now, there's nothing wrong with putting 20 up and a time and a few people do that, that's why the backlog is so big, but there's no point in you just sitting back. Are those complete for content etc? So as to not have to ce again after the info is culled or anything. Also the pp. spacing and . after the numbers is inconsistent again. Spaces and dots liek the convetional template? YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Put them both up for GAN (that's 4 of mine right now!). They're as complete as they're getting for the moment. I'm Jardined to death and there's not much on Macaulay except a few stories on what a psycho he could be which don't really fit in. Fixed refs, put in spaces and dots. --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Ipl

Good match last night. Looks to be fairly even in the Sheffield Shield. Jimmy Maher and Stuart Clark on commentary :( —Aaroncrick (talk) 07:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Which one? The Punjab/Bangalore one? I only saw the death overs of Punjab's batting. Rubbish bowling. Did Pathan/Sree and portly Piyush bowl any good or been improving? Punjab should do better....Maher and Clark are horrid. Rofe on radio is pretty awful too. At least Ridgway provides a Hughes-style chuckle. And Mattinbgn is back on the the job. We're all waiting for Ponting's pummeling pulls.... YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 07:15, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Straight to fine leg? :) Yep, Sree bowled the best to start with, the others were rubbish. He got a lot of outswing but the edges just flew away away, and went for 44 in three overs. Chawla was alright -- got away with Kallis pushing away half-trackers, though. —Aaroncrick (talk) 07:42, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, FA has fine legs. Maybe another Viru special tonight espeically if Mumbai bowl really badly again YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 07:53, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Too late to be bothered getting up to take a look. Watched nearly all of 2008 but only two matches this year. Cricket overload maybe :S Anyway, I can't see me doing a look of writing in the near future. Ponting could stuck on the crease for a while yet. —Aaroncrick (talk) 10:28, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

True, true....more quality in the swimming champs to be frank, anyway... YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Haven't seen much of the swimming either. The Kotla pitch must have been better. —Aaroncrick (talk) 07:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you shouldn't bother. The standard seems to have gone backward compared to 2007 even when they had no super suits. I was witing for you to finish voting before I closed it :) or start eh NSW one, :) YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Politically Correct

Have I gotten to be politically correct? Please be honest with me, as I am concerned about this. Politically correct is not what the project needs, and if I am becoming politically correct, or worse am now politically correct I would like to know so I can fix the problem now. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Well I am going to vote for almost everyone, per usual, but I thought I would just see what would happen if I endorsed my favourite candidate or two first before everyone else. I would have done it to Nick-D but he didn't run this time. Perhaps it would have turned into the kiss of ebola. Well, what I liked about Nick and Ed was that they were the most self-critical and realistic about the project in the role of being coords, not holding back on substandard nominal FAs at FAR. Nick has also been outspoken about/actively tackling a lot of POV problems that exist in various areas of military interest with nationalists, and calling for more stringent sourcing wrt avoiding popular history books, and hasn't been avoiding them or pretending they exist. Obviously, everyone is aware that MILHIST is perceived as the most developed wikiproject, perhaps even as some kind of miraculous superpower or something, so because of this widely-perceived image, there is an obvious temptation for coordinators to not actively/openly talk or engage with real, existent deviations from the idealised image, such as POV pushing or extreme lack of coverage in non-Anglophone areas, particularly as coords are often given credit for various achievements by the whole project. Although for some reason, coords don't get blamed by outsiders for rampaging nationalists.... when they don't explicitly affect the ups and downs of FA production much at all at the moment anyway. But I don't agree with avoiding talking about problems with the wikiproject for reasons of image and prestige, although some could argue that it's better to pretend that it's a utopia so that people won't become disillusioned and stop contributing, like in a communist state. There's nothing alarming here as there are some other WPs where the official/unofficial heads are glory-hunters who go and do 1-line supports/keeps at every FAC/FARC of their project (not naming them else I won't be able to mod their future FARs and overrule their votestacking if I condemnt them). Nobody here does that. But I think if people want to hold themselves to the best standards they'll have to talk about it openly (unless they are hermits) even though it may make them look less great in the eyes of the unattentive masses who are irrationally enamoured with them, eg a university head not saying that everything was great. YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 07:23, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. TomStar81 (Talk) 01:43, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Violence Against Indians in Australia Controversry

Hi, I saw your interest on the talk. I have done a major refactor on the above article and tried to convert it to prose with a chronology and a list of the different controversies and addressed the issues on the talk page . I would appreciate your feedbackWakelamp (talk) 09:48, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Semiproection of Thaipusam

There was no vandalism at the time... -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

There was one IP who was dynamic and too noisy to block and he was turning up to about 20 articles once or twice a week YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Please point out the edits where the specific vandalism occurred. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Semiprotection of Devaasuram

There was no significant vandalism of this either. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

There was one IP who was dynamic and too noisy to block and he was turning up to about 20 articles once or twice a week YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Please point out the edits where significant vandalism occurred. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Semiprotection of Freedom of religion in India

Only 2-3 pieces of vandalism over the last year -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:45, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

No time for Nangparbat or teh Hkelkar reaction YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppets have to attack a page more than once for that to be a good reason to apply indefinite semi-protection... -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:57, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

He's always come back on any page that isn't sportected at any given tiem YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 06:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Semiprotection of Freestyle swimming

Only a single piece of vandalism this year. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:46, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Semiprotection of Dural, New South Wales

Very little vandalism on this one as well. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Except that nobody watches it and there were two YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

That isn't following the policy as they were over a long period of time, its not even close as it isn't a BLP - and even that isn't cut and dried... -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:57, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Cricket

Have you lost it? :P —Aaroncrick (talk) 04:38, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Guru greg is lucid as ever:) YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 06:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

And George ... Thought Cutting was unlucky, but of course you're SAn. —Aaroncrick (talk) 08:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, my comments aren't because of parochialism, unlike the likes of Ken Cunningham and "Studley" and their rubbish regionalism complaining why Blewett and Cosgrove don't get in. I don't see any SA player who can say they've been ripped off apart from Siddons. The others eg Cosgrove, Cullen, Bailey didn't deserve their caps and contracts, and Ferguson didn' either although he did well. Cutting was in teh Shield so of course he couldn't come YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh no, looks like there's gonna be a hung parliment down here. Sorry if you're a Greens supporter ... —Aaroncrick (talk) 06:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Nope I live in a dead safe ALP area where the people are silly and vote ALP all the time even though Rann shuts down everything. I always vote reverse order of popularity, ALP last, Lib second last, green third last... 15% swing against ALP here, but they still have 60%. And not good to see that on the old primary school oval there is now a volleyball sand-pit at long-off, third man and fine leg chopped off for housing, and the nets are dilapidated with rusted metal lying everywhere :( Not that there was much interest in the non-Anglo areas in the western suburbs, it's like the cricket Bangladesh of Adelaide. YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Did you receive my e-mail?

Dear YellowMonkey, on Thursday, March 18, 2010, I sent you a confidential e-mail. Did you receive it? Do you have any comments, recommendations or suggestions? Kindly please respond. Thanks, Zwinglio\^pray 18:55, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Ah thanks, just checked. YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 04:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

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April 2010 GAN backlog elimination drive

WikiProject Good Articles will be running a GAN backlog elimination drive for the entire month of April. The goal of this drive is to bring the number of outstanding Good Article nominations down to below 200. This will help editors in restoring confidence to the GAN process as well as actively improving, polishing, and rewarding good content. If you are interested in participating in the drive, please place your name here. Awards will be given out to those who review certain numbers of GANs as well as to those who review the most. Hope we can see you in April.

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RfC on your schools proposal

FYI The schools part of your statement on WP:AN is now an RfC. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 13:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Noted YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:50, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

A-Class Review for Sidney Edgerton

I have completed the requests that you have made on Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Sidney Edgerton, and I am ready for more (If you want to). Thanks and Have A Great Day! Lord Oliver ^{I Heard It Through The Olive Branch} 17:46, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Noted YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:50, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canada

Just wanted to let you know that you posted to a redirect page. I moved it over to the correct place, Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board. something lame from CBW 06:56, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Thanks YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 02:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Hobart International Airport/GA1

Looks a lost cause ahead of Anzac Day. —Aaroncrick (talk) 20:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

No it isnt YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 02:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Nangparbat

can you check this user out User:Jayaganeshkigand Wikireader41 (talk) 04:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

That's him YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 09:58, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Regarding User:Dewatchdog

Hey, you blocked him for socking as User:Rajithmohan. I am afraid I don't see the behavioral evidence to go along with the techincal evidence. Could you elaborate a bit more so that I can sensibly decline his request. As it stands now, I cannot find the obvious connections. I am not seeing any connection that would lead one to believe this is the same person, rather than two different people editing through the same IP. --Jayron32 03:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

YM typically isn't active on weekends, so if you want a quick background, you can look at the two sections "Kochi, India" (where I requested the CU) and "unblock on hold pending your input" where Beeblebrox had a similar question. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 05:27, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Direct hit on the IP multiple names, same computer settings, both edited Kochi a lot YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Dear YM, I am afraid that "Direct hit from the same IP and both edited Kochi" is not enough to judge sock accounts. I have dropped you a mail related to this matter earlier. Please check. Thanks, User:Rajithmohan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.193.164.8 (talk) 07:30, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi YM, User:Dewatchdog is being blocked in accusation of SOCK of my account. I am afraid that it was a wrong decision. That account has nothing to do with me. I have also dropped a mail to you in this regard. Anyways, let me try to clarify my part here also:

I was very surprised to find that my username is blocked from editing. The reason stated was that I am using socks. The matter of fact is that I am/was not using any sock accounts.. I went through the details of the alleged sock accout (User:Dewatchdog), and found that his contributions are mainly centered around Kochi, India article.

I have attempted to stop the edit war between the concerned users giving advises and discussing in talk pages. I have even issued warnings to all the related users, including the alleged sock, Dewatchdog : http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADewatchdog&action=historysubmit&diff=317229955&oldid=317049537

Some range of the IP addresses he uses matches with my IP addresses, but not all (I can see that from the nature of edits). I am editing wikipedia through the IP address dedicated to Citigroup. Citigroup is spread around 150 countries with more than 500,000 employees worldwide. Most of the internet connections (irrespective of the country) are routed to the NewYork IP. I am only using these range of IPs since an year for editing wikipedia. Hence, it is unfair to judge that all the edits made from these ranges of IP are from me.

If you can scrutinize the nature of my edits and contributions, it would be well evident that I am not keeping a sock account. I request you to re-think in this and to come up with a fair decision.

Cheers, -- Rajith Mohan ^{(Talk to me..)}

• Please see what Dewatchdog has to say also : User talk:Dewatchdog. Cheers, -- Rajith Mohan ^{(Talk to me..)}

I have and I am not convinced. You two weren't the only people on that range so I didn't indiscriminately group everyone together YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 06:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Your name...

...has come up several times here. Thought you should be aware, as I'm not sure you've been invited to participate in the discussion. Best, Firsfron of Ronchester 04:50, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh it took me a while to find the IP's implicit reference there. Didn't come up with Control F. I have said some things higher up the page YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 06:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

• This is now also being discussed here. –xeno^talk 18:46, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Noted YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 04:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Where did the earlier section go? ;-)
Is Vedvyasa (talk · contribs) = Mkbdtu (talk · contribs) ? The new account is obviously a sock; jumped in at Wendy Doniger, where Rudrasharma and I have been active as of late (we two were the ones most involved in previous discussions with the sock accounts, and Mkbdtu has tried to impersonate us both with previous socks); also shares stylistic quirks with Mkbdtu; can email you some additional reason for suspicion, if needed. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 14:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

QED. Wish all trolls were so cooperative. Abecedare (talk) 21:37, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

There are some sleepers. I just blocked Vikramaditiya (talk · contribs), so a CU might still be helpful. Reference cat is Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Mkbdtu. —SpacemanSpiff 23:22, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I didn't spot anything in his forest of an IP range, among the 300 other accounts, mostly just created accounts that didn't do anything, and random other people, unless you think he's Hemanshu (talk · contribs), which is unlikely YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 06:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

He's unlikely to be a regular account, but he could be staying with someone with a regular account and that's how he found out about this site and stuff. He's getting to be as bad as Bambifan. What's the deal with the Kochi block? Both claiming they aren't? —SpacemanSpiff 06:44, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, they are all denying it. I stuck an ad in the editnotice for Healy and the talk. wonder if people will notice now it's on DYK YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 06:48, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Coming. Rajithmohan mailed me about the sockblock. Looks like Nangparbat will be enjoying the lack of protection. see below YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

• Can you also check and possibly semi Harbhajan Singh Yogi? I posted on WT:INB but no one seems to be interested in looking at it. I think Guru Sant Singh (talk · contribs) = Sharkbait061 (talk · contribs) = 135.196.99.251 (talk • contribs • info • WHOIS). That page is a nightmare, fluctuating between a hagiography and a litigation outlet. —SpacemanSpiff 07:18, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
  • BTW, the edit notice text is too big and overlapping, both here and on Healy. Don't know if others have the same problem?—SpacemanSpiff 07:49, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Well GSS is in London same as the IP. Maybe a work/home double, as the IP is a public service outlet YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 04:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, ok thx. They all use the same references and stuff, could be some sort of meatpuppetry too. Also, Mkbdtu came back today as Vivekchudamani (talk · contribs). Sigh. —SpacemanSpiff 06:49, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Can't believe Goethean survived so long. Not any more YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 06:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not familiar, but just saw the article, what a mess. I didn't realize it when I saw the posts on Abecedare's TP. —SpacemanSpiff 04:36, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

If only we got a dollar for removing a spam/povpush from an Indian page. People could make the same as being a private teacher or something. The articles on all teh tech parks are 60%+ spam. Seems like all org/corp pages on WP India chould be locked YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 06:33, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

• BTW, there's a range block on the 115.240 range for Mkbdtu, but he seems to be on another IP now, just had an unblock notice on the master account that I declined. Well, the spam goes into city articles, not just the tech parks and corps. Right now, I think the spam is better written than real content in many places that it's becoming difficult to revert the nonsense. This edit just stayed on for a full day. —SpacemanSpiff 06:44, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

• One more CU please: Maverick1728 (talk · contribs) = JUGAL70 (talk · contribs) = Chandra15 (talk · contribs). cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 20:21, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Bingo YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 07:42, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• Also, is Bankelal (talk · contribs) = Mkbdtu (talk · contribs) ? (Btw, did you see how he created a sock to request an unblock ? :-) )
  • This is quacking to me, same writing style, similar topics (not same as those are protected) and edits. I've started revoking TP access for his socks, so he has to create new ones for unblocks. —SpacemanSpiff 03:05, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
    • I'll wait for a CU though to block and tag this and other puppets, since there were a few new socks after the rangeblock -- Vivekchudamani (talk · contribs), Chandragupta1 (talk · contribs). —SpacemanSpiff 03:09, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

All hits and some others also found YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 07:42, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

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