Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Defenders of the Christian Faith

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

~~The result was Deleted by user:RadioKirk, "Fails WP:N as written". Have a nice day. --Dennisthe2 03:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)~~ Upon further review, I've restored the history for potential merger and redirected to Gerald B. Winrod. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 14:14, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Defenders of the Christian Faith

I proded this, but TruthbringerToronto removed it. This article has no sources. A yahoo search "Defenders of the Christian Faith" bring us less than 800 hits, the first being wikipedia, second a wiki mirror. Most of the hits don't seem to be about this group. For example, some refer to a group in Dorchester, Massachusetts. PatriotBible 02:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. (Removed prod. Once notable, always notable. If its leader was the basis of a character in It Can't Happen Here, then the group is notable, even through it is (or was) both unpleasant and incorrect. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 02:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You selectively read. The article, unsourced, says "Winrod may have served as the prototype for the character..." Again, that concerns Gerald B. Winrod, and not his organization. PatriotBible 02:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete "Defenders of the Christian Faith" contains no sources, failing WP:CITE, and it also appears to fail WP:NOTE. I can find zero g-hits that refer to this organization specifically beyond a small handful that refer to the organization as a footnote. Certainly nothing that shows notability. -- wtfunkymonkey 02:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. It's an inadequate article, but take a look at Charles Coughlin for an example of another demagogue from that era who had a lot of influence. Other references to this group can be found by searching for its name in combination with that of Gerald B. Winrod :

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Gerald+B.+Winrod%22+%22Defenders+of+the+Christian+Faith%22 See http://ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/Files/1939_1940_4_YRUS.pdf (page 216) for example, which refers to Winrod and Defenders in the same sentence. (American Jewish Yearbook which covers the period from July 1, 1938 to June 30, 1939.) --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 02:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this, and use as redirect to Fidei defensor. Grutness...wha? 02:51, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Gerald B. Winrod. However I'd like to say that the number of Google hits isn't really proof of anything when we're discussing 1930s Kansas. There are things in Encyclopedias I have which likely would get few Google hits as the Internet skews against Depression-era Middle America. Scholar Google does show some results for "Gerald B. Winrod" "Defenders of the Christian Faith." Not enough I think it deserves its own article, but enough that more detail about it can be added to Gerald B. Winrod--T. Anthony 03:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to the utter lack of multiple independent sources to show this is notable. Edison 06:17, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Gerald B. Winrod. It is, in my opinion, better suited for a merge unless it can be fleshed out a bit more and score some of those notional notability "points". --Dennisthe2 07:20, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete NN MiracleMat 07:31, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
keep or merge but please watch WP:BLP on his one.--Doc^g 10:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable. Xiner (talk, email) 19:17, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Winrod's article per T. Anthony. -- Kicking222 19:39, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per the above, if Winrod's article doesn't already sufficiently cover it.--Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 20:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Gerald B. Winrod. Pastordavid 06:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Gerald B. Winrod. ^Blank ^Verse 08:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP The nomination is centered on the fact that this article is poorly-referenced. Failing WP:CITE does not mean deletion. The improvability of the article should also be taken into consideration. --RebSkii 19:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If the article can be easily improved, I suggest you improve it. Alan.ca 21:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete From reading the current article, I don't see any claim to notability. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alan.ca (talk • contribs) 22:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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