Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/June Pursell

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:22, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June Pursell

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I can't find any actual discussions of her and her work, nor any evidence for the repeated claims that her "voice captivated audiences and earned her a place among the prominent singers of her time.". The other claim, that she "made notable appearances in two films", is not supported by the (unreliable) source IMDb, which gives one uncredited(!) role as a vocalist, and one role as a "singer on the stage". Looking for better sources give ultr-short entries like here or purely passing mentions. She may be notable (though I haven't found the evidence for this), but then this should be based on reliable sources and accurately reflect these sources, not some unreliable sources and some claims not even supported by those. Fram (talk) 14:17, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Bands and musicians, Women, and United States of America. Fram (talk) 14:17, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:SINGER (5) Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable); (6) Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles; as demonstrated by these sources: [1] and [2] Dolovis (talk) 16:34, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The source lists no albums, just singles. And she isn't an ensemble, and isn't a member of two or more notable ensembles either it seems. So none of your arguments seem to apply here. Fram (talk) 09:48, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:12, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The Earl Burtnett and Jack Denny orchestras are the ensembles referenced; and 78 RPM records are not singles. 78s were the only record format availble before the LP album was invented. Dolovis (talk) 13:47, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Records with one 3 minute song on a side are singles, not albums. Fram (talk) 14:05, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - @Fram - Please see the updated sources. There was a lot of coverage on her through various newspapers.com newspapers. KatoKungLee (talk) 14:26, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 03:01, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Numerous RS have been added since the nom. APK whisper in my ear 03:05, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - seems to meet on notability and sourcing requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 04:03, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Okoslavia (talk) 15:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Discography of American Historical Recordings. UC Santa Barbara Library has a 1925-1932 database of her recordings. According to that, she recorded with American band leaders Jack Denny, Earl Burtnett and Roy Fox. I've added it under External links. Also, I added the Authority control template at the bottom, which should generate usual international links for her works. — Maile (talk) 20:09, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.