Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim Cloutier (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Biblioworm 01:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Cloutier

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Non notable model. Some covers, some works, just that. damiens.rf 16:38, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Appears to be notable and multiple reliable sources exist that establish this. Appeared in the SI Swimsuit Issue, which is a significant threshold for model notability. Also has appeared in multiple spreads and features in countries outside of Canada, which seems to indicate she is known internationally (Croatia)[1], (France) [2], [3], [4], (Croatia) [5], (Argentina) [6], (Vietnam) [7]. Also appeared on the cover of Details with Adam Lambert in 2009, according to New York Magazine [8]. EDIT: Also has appeared in multiple international issues of Elle magazine, including the July 2010 Canadian edition [9], on the cover of Elle Spain in December 2013 [10], The Master ---)Vote Saxon(--- 00:13, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As said in the nomination, "Some covers, some works, just that.". She is a prolific model, but there isn't much published about her that could be used to substantiate a biography. We can write, at best, a compilation of here jobs, as in a curriculum vitae. --damiens.rf 13:08, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A compilation of jobs is basically what all model biographies are. They are models, hence work in major magazines, photoshoots, and fashion shows is exactly what gives them notability and thus what the article is about. —Lowellian (reply) 08:07, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. SI issue alone is sufficient for notability as a model, and she has far more work beyond that in hundreds of magazines, work that is easily verifiable as User:The Master has demonstrated above. Furthermore, much of her work is named work; she has sufficient recognition in the modeling industry that she is identified by name, rather than just some anonymous model in advertisements. —Lowellian (reply) 08:07, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"SI issue alone is sufficient for notability as a model" - As much as you'd like it, this is not what WP:NMODEL says. --damiens.rf 13:09, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NMODEL does not point to specific "models" criteria, but instead redirects to a generic "Entertainers" notability section, most of which is written for actors and musicians. However, the parts of that "Entertainers" notability section that could be relevant to models include "multiple significant productions" and "prolific contributions to a field of entertainment", both of which have been amply demonstrated by User:The Master above. Furthermore, in the modeling industry, the SI issue is one of the highest honors, and it is among her work. If that is not sufficient, then almost no models meet notability criteria on Wikipedia. It would be like saying an actor who has both a large body of work and been nominated for an Academy Award is non-notable. —Lowellian (reply) 23:49, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep She has achieved a significant level of notability as noted above.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Being on the SI cover is not an inherently notable achievement, sorry. If nothing has changed in this person's live since AfD #1, there is no valid reason to retain this article. Tarc (talk) 01:48, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- SI is one of the most prestigious accolades in the modeling industry. By that logic, an actor being nominated for an Academy Award is not an inherently notable achievement either. And this argument also supposes that SI is her only accomplishment. Above, a large body of other modeling work in notable publications has been demonstrated. —Lowellian (reply) 23:54, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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