Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Heroes graphic novels

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was withdrawn. Nobody is going to bother addressing the directory-like structure, so I'm not going to bother with this AfD. Remember folks: Wikipedia is not a directory, unless you are really popular.-Wafulz 13:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Heroes graphic novels

I'm a huge fan of Heroes, but Wikipedia is not a directory. The material that actually discusses the graphic novels is short and can be merged into the main article. Wafulz 00:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the concerns raised above, while valid, would be better addressed by expanding and re-titling this article to properly cover the webcomic, the themes and story-lines it develops, and its relationship with the series. (If there were only a handful of comics, I might be inclined to support the merger. However, given that there are already over forty issues with no end in sight, deletion would not be a positive step.) --Ckatz^chat _spy 00:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Expanding and retitling" is effectively writing a new article. Right now this article is a list of links poised on becoming a list of links combined with a list of plot summaries. The little content about the comics themselves can be merged into the main article, and relevant plot details about characters can be added to the individual or "list of characters" articles.-Wafulz 00:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or Merge with List of Heroes episodes. These are part of a story arc that is notable, and therefore, I believe we should not delete this info. J-ſtan^Talk_Contribs 00:59, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: If this article is merged with List of Heroes Episodes, maybe the product of the two should be renamed "Heroes Story Arc". J-ſtan^Talk_Contribs 01:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - How does this differ from List of Heroes episodes, or any other "list of X episodes" article? Metao 01:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because this is more or less the same as NBC's website. If people want Heroes comics, they can go to the Heroes comics website. We're not here to mirror a company's product.-Wafulz 01:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most networks provide episode guides as well, and there are numerous sites dedicated to episode guides. Duplication is no big deal. Im not saying that this article should have immunity from deletion just because there are lots of other episode guides on Wikipedia. Im pointing out that deletion of this episode list is a precedent for deleting every episode guide on Wikipedia, and I dont believe that that is your intention, or indeed a good idea. Metao 02:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Those lists typically lead to articles though. These are just external links.-Wafulz 02:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep Wikipedia's supposed to be an encyclopedic reference, isn't it? How isn't this encyclopedic or referential? Crazydiamond1to9 06:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep i'm all for keeping it. not sure how it would merge into the episode list page, so i'm for the keep. merging with the episode list would probably confuse those that don't read the comics. if it wasn't for this wikipedia page, i'd never have known about the comics. i've only been to the NBC site once (last week) to get details of the new comic to update wikipedia. if wikipedia was already updated, i'd never have went to the NBC site. this may sound weird, but i prefer to find out things from wikipedia, rather than each and every tv programme's site. why have 1, 5, 10 sites, when i can have this one!! i come here every monday/tuesday, to view the new comic (in pdf format) and get any other new info. i know of a few USA TV sites that restrict (or don't allow at all) international internet users to view their site (SHO springs to mind), therefore this list is great for me! granted NBC don't restrict me in viewing their site, but that day might come, and then how will i get my comic fix?!? this page gives the links to the comics, but also the 'easter egg' information, which i can't get by viewing the pdf file, as the easter egg is flash only. now the comics are being released in hardcopy, (however it will probably only be sold in the US, so i STILL miss out!) it is probably more of a reason to keep the page, as no doubt the hardcopy would get a page of it's own. if i knew of any other site that gave the same info as this page, then i'd maybe use it. however, i don't know of any other, and i don't want to have to join any, just to get a link. i agree with what was said by Metao, if you delete this guide you'd be as well deleting every other episode guide, and why stop there? album song lists surely fall under the same scope as episode guides, no? and tv/film/game character pages too? Geeness 08:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep Everything on Wikipedia is put there with a reference, so everything on this website is essentially duplicated from the rest of the Internet and collected here. Your logic seems to lead to the eventual deletion of the entirety of Wikipedia. This list is encyclopedic, this list is useful, and it should be allowed to remain. To merge this with the main article would be to break the flow of the main article, since the list now stands at fifty issues and will continue to grow for as long as Heroes runs. It is too long to merge with anything else and should not be deleted, as such, it should be kept, very definitely. Add that to the fact that in fact, this list is much more easily accessible than NBC's version on their website (just to counteract an argument by Wafulz, above) and I don't believe there is any real reason to get rid of this. Certainly the main thrust of opinion is against Wafulz's proposal. John Coxon 11:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep It would be ridiculous to get rid of an article like this, from Wikipedia. Not only does it provide integral AND original information pertaining to Heroes, but it's organized quite nicely. There's no real reason to merge this, as it acts as a stand-alone archive for the Heroes graphic novels anyways. Everything about this article is as solid as any other venerable article on this site. Keep it. 74.12.11.152 12:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC) Joe Caron[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.