Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of left-wing militant groups

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 00:02, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of left-wing militant groups

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Per its talk page, this list's scope is vague, leading to a calvalcade of original research. Its contents are not discussed as an independently notable topic set, so as not to warrant its own article. For comparison, the ostensibly parent list, List of militant organizations had the same issue and redirects to List of designated terrorist groups, which would be an inappropriate redirect target for the title under discussion. czar 17:36, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military and Politics. czar 17:36, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:37, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There is no logical redirect target. Also, this article despite having the issues mentioned by the nominator also has the issue of how to define militancy for inclusion criteria as when discussing left wing groups the concept of Militancy in Trotsykism where you have non-violent groups like Militant tendency. I think that the difficulty of setting inclusion criteria and the previous results of similar pages should lead to delete. TartarTorte 19:16, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Pure listcruft that has no standard on how to term the groups as "left-wing militant". Shankargb (talk) 21:37, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lean Keep. The topic of violent left-wing groups is notable and is the subject of monographs, textbook chapters, and studies. The list, as it currently exists, might benefit from some more definite inclusion criteria. However, since agreement on inclusion criteria can likely be achieved through ordinary editing, I lean towards keeping the article rather than deleting it based on need for improvement. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 05:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. In its current state, this list just smacks of OR. I'd say delete, but would be happy to change my response to Keep only if the article is given a complete overhaul. Grnrchst (talk) 08:11, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Too broad to satisfy WP:SALAT. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:27, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but reduce. This article should be kept but have stricter inclusion criteria and I say that while being well aware of my own role in expanding this list without regard for any inclusion criteria for which I sincerely apologize. Charles Essie (talk) 18:14, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The topic of "violent left-wing groups" is not the subject of the links provided above by Mhawk10: they are on the subject of "revolutionary violence" or "left-wing terrorism". (And this article's scope is "left-wing militant groups", not quite the same thing.) I don't bring this up to criticize Mhawk10 but to illustrate how the problems with defining the subject of this list are unsolvable. -- asilvering (talk) 21:24, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The very topic of this list (i.e. its inclusion criteria) are This is a list of left-wing militant groups around the world. These groups seek change through armed conflict or violent protest in opposition to an established government. So, yes, left-wing groups that seek violent protest in opposition to a government (revolutionary violence and terrorism) is firmly in line with those guidelines. And there's also the source on left-wing extremist violence that you conveniently ignored. If the reason for deletion is nitpicking over the title, I don't think it's particularly strong. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 22:40, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I did read that source. It has the same issue as the others: it does not have "left-wing militant groups" as its topic. I don't at all believe this is a problem that can be dismissed as nitpicking over the title; as I said in my vote, and as stated by the nominator, the difficulty of defining what this list is about is precisely the trouble, and has led to "a cavalcade of original research". -- asilvering (talk) 00:19, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I agree with Czar and others generally here and as someone who researches these things this list causes me no ends of headaches. As an aside can we calm down on the lists all together? Apart from maybe satisfying some individuals neurosis (I get it, i sometimes feel the compulsion to make lists too, but why here?) what exactly are long lists of extremely disparately related things bringing the English language Wikipedia project? SP00KYtalk 12:17, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete also inevitably falls foul of WP:NPOV by conflating militant with extremist. Plus, same reasons we've deleted List of dictators five different times in its various incarnations. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 13:24, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, mostly because this page is a mess. I think some of the content could be lifted into say Category:Maoist organizations and similar collections for other tendencies. KetchupSalt (talk) 22:31, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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