Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Barnsley

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Arkyan  ^(talk) 20:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Barnsley

Delete: Non-notable Jill Teed 11:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep. Poorly researched AfD nomination based on stalking. Barnsley's case was championed by people such as Julian Cope and the MOJO organisation set up by a member of the Birmingham Six - [1] [2]. Also see [3], [4], [5] and [6]. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 12:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There does appear to be some evidence that Mark Barnsley was, as the article puts it, a cause célèbre for at least some people in Britain. [7] Pop Secret 12:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is no case of stalking - I originally tried to simply wikify and improve grammatically and syntactically the Barnsley page, which is in awful shape, but User:One Night In Hackney reverted those edits and I left it alone, all of which can be verified in the edit history for that page. I finally realized the page is not worth keeping. Something is not worth keeping on Wikipedia because it is a "cause célèbre for at least some people in Britain". It is simply that User:One Night In Hackney, one of the cadre of supporters of the Provisional Irish Republican Army (such as User:Vintagekits, User:Pauric, User:GiollaUidir, User:Domer48, et al) on Wikipedia, knows that the "anarchists" in Britain are often Provo fellow travelers and he is simply looking out for his own. In light of User:One Night In Hackney's affiliations (see his talk page) WP:AFG cannot be assumed. Jill Teed 12:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I suggest you strike through that personal attack. Perhaps we should also make mention of your cadre of sockpuppets used to push an anti-Irish republican point of view? You didn't make a single grammatical improvement to the page as the edit shows. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 12:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The edit history does not support user Jill Teed's contentions of either attempted edits or wrongful reversions on the part of user One Night in Hackney. Regardless, the subject matter of the article seems to have sufficient notability for inclusion, whatever one's feelings about Irish republicanism. Pop Secret 13:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Mark Barnsley is well known in anarchist circles not just in Britain, (see e.g. [8] and[9]). The article is relevant for anyone interested in the anarchist movement in the UK and beyond. Stammer 15:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - the article needs to be exapanded but I believe the subject does meet the notability requirements. My suggestion would be to include more references. There are many out there judging by the number of google hits. --Cyrus Andiron 15:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep and I don't see what his support (or not) for the provos has to do with it. Are you suggesting we shouldn't have pages on anyone you don't agree with? Looking through the edit history I can't see any attempt, other than by his opponents, to push a non-NPOV. And where do you get "the anarchists in Britain are often Provo fellow travelers" from? I'm a paid-up hard-leftist and I work for the police, for god's sake. - iridescenti (talk to me!) 20:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He seems notable based on the outcry from his case. I added some sources and external links to flesh it out some more. IrishGuy ^talk 00:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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