Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/T. L. Anthony

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The result was keep. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 00:27, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

T. L. Anthony

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Does not seem to qualify for WP:NSPORT given lack of professional career and coaching of a Div II team in the early 20th century. Was contested with the rationale "This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because the subject was a head coach in college football and prominent as a player, given his selection to the 1921 College Football All-Southern Team. " Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:49, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49: WP:NSPORT is an inclusive standard only. It expressly provides for athletes/coaches to have articles if they pass WP:GNG. In particular, NSPORT states: "Subjects that do not meet the sport-specific criteria outlined in this guideline may still be notable if they meet the General Notability Guideline or another subject specific notability guideline." Have you complied with WP:BEFORE by checking to determine whether the subject satisfies GNG standards? Cbl62 (talk) 02:10, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did do some searching yes but clearly not a good enough one considering evidence now present. The idea that all college football coaches from that time period of notable is something I would find questionable, however. But given combination of that plus notability from championship team (again merely playing on which I would argue was not notable then or now) seems more than enough to justify keeping. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:02, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've found a number of sources covering the subject, who was a prominent player on one of the prominent college football teams on the early 1920s. Additionally, when he was the head football coach at Atlantic Christian, from 1928 to 1930, it was not a "Div II team" as no such thing yet existed. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:22, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Article is less than two months old and has undergone significant improvement since its nomination here at AfD. He was a leading football player at a major college program in the days before the NFL existed and when major colleges were the sport's highest level of play. Sources indicate that he later coached at three different colleges. Based on the coverage found to date, the subject appears to pass the WP:GNG bar. Cbl62 (talk) 04:37, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 05:11, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 05:11, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

keep to extend Cbl62's point, in the 1920s-1930s, the NFL was in its infancy and college football was much more prominent. Head coaches normally muster enough coverage to pass WP:GNG and I'm wiling to assume good faith that offline sources exist for a prominent coach in the 1920s-1930s.--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:30, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets WP:GNG, per all above. Article has now been expanded and references added. Ejgreen77 (talk) 18:30, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.