Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/With All My Love

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 12:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

With All My Love

Declining WP:CSD#A9 speedy deletion and taking to AfD; there are some technical points about A9 and allmusic.com I'd like to discuss. The page University of North Florida Jazz Department exists; so does that mean, for the purposes of A9, that we should speedy or not, when the band is the "University of North Florida Jazz Ensemble I"? Also, I see "University of North Florida Jazz Ensemble" on allmusic.com, but the entry is very short; does that suggest we should have a page on the Jazz Ensemble in addition to the department? And finally, if I'm trying to make a call on A9, and there's no page on the band but I have reason to think we might want a page on the band, what do I do? Inquiring minds want to know. - Dank (push to talk) 18:17, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- - Dank (push to talk) 18:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. -- - Dank (push to talk) 18:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As the creator of speedy criterion A9, I agree with the nominator. University of North Florida Jazz Department is close enough, and I don't know why the "I" is there. The Jazz Department's article indicates that it's indeed by them, but there're no sources to be found. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 18:32, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The band is listed as the "University of North Florida Jazz Ensemble I" because it is a specific group of musicians who are a part of the larger University of North Florida Jazz Department. There is a Jazz Ensemble II and III, as well as other groups like the UNF Guitar ensemble and UNF Wind Ensemble. The album "With All My Love" is listed as being by the "University of North Florida Jazz Ensemble I" because they are the specific group on the recording. I have included a link to the UNF Jazz Ensemble I's page on the UNF website. I hope this clears up any problems at that this article is not deleted because it is an important accomplishment by the music department of the University of North Florida.
-The222

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, I'^mperator 13:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. A9 is indeed not applicable. Case of WP:MUSIC, this doesn't seem to hold to any of the criteria. Sure it's a good album, so I'm gonna have to give it a listen. =) --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 15:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I, article fails to establish notability per WP:MUSIC#Albums I. Esradekan Gibb ^"Klat" 11:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have added more outside sources to account for the album's notability. This article does meet the notability requirement, with four outside sources (even more are out there), as well as the Amazon page. I believe the article should remain. --The222 (talk) 04:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- All those resources say is that the album is for sale. Doesn't really connote notability. Try this as a guideline. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 15:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - You do make a good point about all of the sources only detailing the album being for sale (one source does review the album though). I have added a few more outside sources, one from Yahoo music which shows that this is the fifth album released by the ensemble. I was unable to find many resources that did not try to sell to the album though. Maybe we should create an artist page for the UNF Jazz Ensemble I and merge the album information into the article, or we could expand the UNF Jazz Studies program article by creating a Jazz Ensemble I section. --The222 (talk) 21:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.