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Crime

Varrio 204th Street

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Lack of notability. TheLongTone (talk) 14:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and California. Shellwood (talk) 16:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of criminal gangs in Los Angeles: While I did find a singular Washington Post article about them, I can't find anything else that prevents a failure of WP:GNG. A redirect would work. Sir MemeGod  20:00, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OSINT for Ukraine

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Non-notable organisation, lacking WP:RS to meet WP:NORG, WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 23:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Military, Organizations, Netherlands, and Ukraine. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - while their work is laudable, there is also insufficient coverage in reliable sources. Sorry. Bearian (talk) 01:47, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – per all above. gidonb (talk) 03:59, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Irondequoit stabbing and arson attack

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Not notable event per WP:EVENTCRIT and looks like a violation of WP:NOTNEWSPAPER Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 09:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and New York. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 09:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Four deaths in a stabbing attack is very much routine these days, sadly. Nothing to suggest this is anything beyond routine news coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 15:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A suspect, an illegal immigrant from the Dominican Republic says it all; another article from the crime/alarmism part of en.wiki that insists every little crime deserves an article to go with their agenda. Stop it, this is a local news story and the creator knows what they're doing tossing in Fox News and New York Post sources and mis-using a sister station connection (WHAM to KEYE) to try to game GNG. Nate • (chatter) 19:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This seems to violate WP:NOTNEWS and WP:MILL. Unfortunately (in my view), such crimes are not unusual, and I don't think there is a WP:LASTING component to these crimes. Additionally, the sources provided are either local news sources, questionable, or unreliable. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:35, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Killing of Michael Mohn

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This feels like a violation of WP:NOTNEWS Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Pennsylvania. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, does not appear to be a notable crime. Coverage appears to be generally local and mostly primary sources. Esolo5002 (talk) 14:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
many wikipedia articles are not "notable", however this is accredited for being well documented, including his motives and disturbing video. 67.108.47.118 (talk) 18:32, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Just a note that a previous article on this subject was deleted at Justin Mohn as an attack page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:57, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For evaluation of the content added.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:25, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: not likely meeting criminal notability; I can only find coverage from this past February when he was also facing terrorism charges... Then silence. Strange crime, but the media seems to have moved on. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:22, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gąsawa massacre

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The article only describes the motives for the massacre and nothing more, the course of the crime is also lacking, in addition, most things (sources) in the article have a trivial mention of the subject in one sentence, which is incompatible with WP:SIGCOV Polski Piast from Poland (talk) 16:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, I could not find here this footnote Labuda, Gerard (1995). The death of Leszek the White (1227). Historical Annals. 61: 7-33. Gerard Labuda describing the views of Józef Uminski. If somewhere you Marek still has about this study then it's cool, but if not, well, we have problems. I hope that we will be able to keep the article after all. Polski Piast from Poland (talk) 16:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 September 14. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 16:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Events, History, and Poland. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or Merge with Leszek the White There do not seem to be adequate sources for an article. It's already covered in Leszek the White#Assassination. Maybe only one or two sources refer to it as a massacre, since massacres usually result in more than one death. TFD (talk) 20:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- There are adequate sources - six of them with one or two specifically dedicated to this event. Whether or not it should be under “massacre” or something else is a naming question, not a reason for deletion. Volunteer Marek 16:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Also probably a good idea to read the talk page first before !voting [1] or the relevant DYK discussion. Naming issue was discussed. More than one person was killed though most sources focus on the most important one - the Duke. Volunteer Marek 17:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep One would think that the assassination/murder of the ruler of Poland would be notable. YMMV I guess. There’s six reliable source in the article with one or two of them specifically dedicated to this event. This is also a very well known event in Polish historiography. The text in Leszek the White article is different (and frankly with worse sourcing). This article was featured at DYK and no one had a problem with either notability or any other issues then. Now it’s getting nominated for deletion by some brand new account with just a few edits who for some unknown reason calls me out by name. Yup. Volunteer Marek 16:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kristian P. Lusardi

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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT or WP:CRIMINAL. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Crime, and North Carolina. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:30, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Move~~ to Christian Lusardi and leave a redirect. More sources available when you search for his "other" name - Christian Lusardi. PsychoticIncall (talk) 11:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC) (I'm striking your duplicate vote as I assume the most recent one is your current opinion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC))[reply]

PsychoticIncall, "Move" is not a possible AFD closure as it is an editing decision. If you are interested in that outcome, you have to vote to "Keep" and then have a Move discussion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:29, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Plenty of sources at his "other" name. PsychoticIncall (talk) 11:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:07, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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