Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Silcox station
Other flag stop "stations" on the Hudson Bay Railway to consider for redirects
[edit]Via Rail describes each of these as "sign posts" on the Hudson Bay Railway used by the Winnipeg–Churchill train. They have exactly the same characteristic as the Silcox station - there's nothing there. Satellite images show no populated places between Churchill, Manitoba (the north end) and the Fox Lake Cree Nation, served by the Bird station (flag stop), 262 km to the south. Bird is on Manitoba 290 near the Limestone Dam on the Nelson River. From north to south:
- Digges station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Digges, Manitoba to Division No. 23, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Bylot station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Bylot, Manitoba to Division No. 23, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Lamprey station is proposed for deletion
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Lamprey, Manitoba is proposed for deletion
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Chesnaye station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Chesnaye, Manitoba to Division No. 23, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Cromarty station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Cromarty, Manitoba to Division No. 23, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Belcher station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Belcher, Manitoba to Division No. 23, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- M'Clintock station is proposed for deletion
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- M'Clintock, Manitoba is proposed for deletion
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Back station is proposed for deletion
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Back, Manitoba is proposed for deletion
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- O'Day station is proposed for deletion
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- O'Day, Manitoba is proposed for deletion
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Kellett station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Kellett, Manitoba to Division No. 23, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Herchmer station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Herchmer to Division No. 23, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Thibaudeau station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Thibaudeau, Manitoba to Division No. 23, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Lawledge station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Lawledge, Manitoba to Division No. 23, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Weir River station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Weir River, Manitoba to Division No. 23, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Amery station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Amery, Manitoba to Gillam, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Sundance - unsure if there's a current flag stop there.
- Unlike the other locations, there is an abandoned town there, Sundance, that was built and used during the construction of the nearby Limestone Dam on the Nelson River
There are 1-3 equipment sheds on sidings at several of these flag stops but they don't look like "stations". A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 03:18, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
Still more flag stops heading south:
- Kettle Rapids station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- associated "town" redirects to Gillam, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Luke station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- associated "town" redirects to Gillam, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Willbeach - unsure if there's a current flag stop there.
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- there's no "town" article
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Wivenhoe station (Manitoba)
- something is there but not much
- poor satellite image
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- something is there but not much
- Nonsuch station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- article implies it was named for the Nonsuch (1650 ship) but no ref cited
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Ilford station (Manitoba)
- Ilford, Manitoba (town)
- Split Lake, Manitoba is a town not on the railroad
- there may or may not be a flag stop by that name 10-20 km away in deep boreal
- Munk station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Kelsey, Manitoba
- is on a spur line from Pit Siding to Kelsey town. I don't think it has a station article
- Pit Siding station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Boyd station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest
- Stitt - unsure if there's a current flag stop there.
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- We have no article for a "town" here
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Arnot station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest
- Wilde station is proposed for deletion
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Wilde, Manitoba is proposed for deletion
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Bridgar station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- I recommend deleting or redirecting Bridgar, Manitoba to Division No. 22, Manitoba
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Pikwitonei station
- Pikwitonei (town)
- I recommend merging the station article, a flag stop, into the town article
- Pikwitonei (town)
- Matago - unsure if there's a current flag stop there.
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- We have no article for a "town" here
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Sipiwesk station
- middle of deep boreal forest and bogs. Dirt road runs off to other dirt roads
- redirects to Mystery Lake, Manitoba
- middle of deep boreal forest and bogs. Dirt road runs off to other dirt roads
- Leven station (Manitoba)
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- We have no article for a "town" here
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Thicket Portage station
- Thicket Portage (town)
- I recommend merging the station article, a flag stop, into the town article
- Thicket Portage (town)
There are still more station articles for flag stops in the middle of nowhere south of Thicket Portage. They're for another day. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 03:33, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- Via Rail guide to the route. Does not include the flag stops:
- Timetables:
- --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 05:37, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keewatin Railway:
- Spur line from The Pas to Pukatawagan
- --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 05:44, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- With this AfD converging on redirect, I would suggest that a close to that effect would justify bold WP:BLAR of all these to suitable best targets. Any reverts could then be taken to AfD. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:42, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- I prodded a good number of them yesterday, some were deprodded, some were endorsed. Redirecting is fine with me. –dlthewave ☎ 12:59, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- With this AfD converging on redirect, I would suggest that a close to that effect would justify bold WP:BLAR of all these to suitable best targets. Any reverts could then be taken to AfD. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:42, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Anybody looking to do a notability deep-dive on these locations should check out:
- --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 03:46, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hockin station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- La Perouse station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Earchman station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Odhill station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Lyddal station
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just deep boreal forest and bogs
- Wabowden station
- road junction with services
- Pipun station
- 400 m east of hwy 6
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- 400 m east of hwy 6
- Dunlop
- next to hwy 6
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 22, Manitoba with which I concur
- next to hwy 6
- Button station
- nothing there - just woods
- No Button, Manitoba article
- nothing there - just woods
- Ponton station
- nothing there - just woods. 2.7 km west of hwy 6
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just woods. 2.7 km west of hwy 6
- Turnbull station
- where
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba with which I concur
- where
- Wekusko station
- dead end of 596 - links RR to hwy 39 8km away
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba with which I concur
- dead end of 596 - links RR to hwy 39 8km away
- Paterson station
- nothing there - just forest
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just forest
- Dyce station
- nothing there - just forest
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just forest
- Rawebb station
- nothing there - just forest
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just forest
- Dering station
- nothing there - just forest
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just forest
- Cormorant station
- town
- Halcrow station
- nothing there - just forest
- Budd station redirects to Winnipeg–Churchill train
- nothing there - just woods. 800 m from hwy 287
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just woods. 800 m from hwy 287
- Finger station redirects to Winnipeg–Churchill train
- nothing there - just woods. 500 m from hwy 287
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba with which I concur
- nothing there - just woods. 500 m from hwy 287
- Atikameg Lake station
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba with which I concur
- Orok station
- near The Pas airport
- Orok, Manitoba redirects to The Pas
- near The Pas airport
- Tremaudan station
- in The Pas
- associated "town" redirects to Division No. 21, Manitoba
- in The Pas
- The Pas station
A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 19:37, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- WP:BLAR seems reasonable given the absence of meaningful and significant objections at the AFD. Actualcpscm (talk) 19:50, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]A. B., thanks for putting this together! Looks like we have a great many station articles that should be redirected to the line. One concern I have is redirecting the "station" and "town" to separate targets. A lot of these pairs (O'Day station and O'Day, Manitoba for example) cite the exact same Canadian Geographical Names Database and VIA Rail sources, both of which describe the location as a rail point/flag stop. If someone invented the "town" out of whole cloth, which appears to be the case, it doesn't seem approriate to redirect to the census division instead of the railroad. –dlthewave ☎ 16:15, 16 August 2023 (UTC)