Wikipedia:Requested moves: Difference between revisions

For the current list of potentially controversial requested moves, see § Current discussions.

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For detailed guidance on how and when to move a page, see Wikipedia:Moving a page.

Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.

Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

• Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
• Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
• A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
• A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
• Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

• Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
• Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
• Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself.
• Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
• Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.

Undiscussed moves

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

• No article exists at the new target title;
• There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
• It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Requesting technical moves

If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

• To list a technical request: the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:

  {{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
  

  This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
• If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
• If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

Technical requests

Uncontroversial technical requests

• Chouquette (pastry) → Chouquette (currently a redirect back to Chouquette (pastry)) (move · discuss) – no disambiguation needed 193.44.11.94 (talk) 12:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
• Motorships → Motorships AS (currently a redirect back to Motorships) (move · discuss) – This company is not the primary topic of "Motorships", the PLURALPT and SINGULARPT are the same, motor ship, per cursory websearch [1][2][3] -- motor-ship/motor-ships/motor ships/motorship should be harmonized to redirect to motor ship -- same as steamship/steamships/steam ship/steam ships -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 00:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
• Xeno-T → Topp Dogg (currently a redirect back to Xeno-T) (move · discuss) – Xeno-T disbanded after only one single released under this new name. The name most people know them as is Topp Dogg, which they had for basically their entire career, and the page should transfer back to that name as a result. However, a redirect on that page prevents this from being transferred back. K-popguardian (talk) 04:59, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
• Habash al-Hasib al-Marwazi → Habash al-Hasib (currently a redirect back to Habash al-Hasib al-Marwazi) (move · discuss) – Short most common name, it is not in conflict with any other article. ReyHahn (talk) 10:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Contested technical requests

• Éric Marty → Eric Marty (essayist) (move · discuss) – in order to better disambiguate from Eric Marty the football player. 2605:8D80:13B5:DA45:C5EA:381:69B8:26DC (talk) 12:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

It is possible that both article titles could remain as-is, because the essayist has the diacritical mark in "É" and the footbal guy does not, while both articles already have the appropriate hatnotes at the top. Also, a reverse request to better disambiguate to footbal guy from the essayist would use the exact same logic. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I'll note that the accent is often omitted for capital letters in French-language sources. Support. 162 etc. (talk) 16:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• If anything, it's only reason to rename the football player article, as the accented title is already precise and unambiguous. Nobody looking for the footballer will type in "Éric", but readers looking for the essayist might type in "Eric" without the accent. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

  Football player was at Eric Marty and was just moved, with a dabpage created. I oppose this. The football player is the primary topic. Reverted. 162 etc. (talk) 18:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• Save the Music Foundation → Save The Music Foundation (currently a redirect back to Save the Music Foundation) (move · discuss) – The "T" in "The" should be capitalized.[4]. JSFarman2 (talk) 02:12, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

  MOS:THETM: "Do not capitalize the word the in a trademark regardless how the name is styled in logos and the like, except at the beginning of a sentence." RachelTensions (talk) 07:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

  I'll note that per WP:MOSTM, "Do not "correct" the spelling (...) to be different from the reliably sourced spelling." 162 etc. (talk) 08:34, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

  Well, that's referring to spelling, not capitalization.

  Even so, several RS would concur with our guideline of not capitalizing "the" in trademarks: [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], etc. RachelTensions (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

  Ah. Thank you. That's good to know. (The capital/the thing drives me nuts; lower case is grammatically correct!) JSFarman2 (talk) 17:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

RachelTensions! I went through the sources last night and thought: "If the New York Times used lower case, it's correct." Thanks again. JSFarman2 (talk) 17:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves

The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:

• there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
• someone could reasonably disagree with the move.

Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.

Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.

Do not create a move request to rename one or more redirects. Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.

Requesting a single page move

To request a single page move, click on the "New section" (or "Add topic") tab of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code:

{{subst:requested move|New name|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}

Replace New name with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 7 November 2024" and sign the post for you.

There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the affected page:

Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.

WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.

Single page move on a different talk page

Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code:

{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}

The |1= unnamed parameter is not used. The |current1= and |new1= parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.

Requesting multiple page moves

A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).

To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code:

{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1 (this parameter can be omitted for discussions hosted on a page that is proposed to be moved)
| new1     = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2     = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3     = New title for page 3
| reason   = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}

See also: Template:Requested move/extended blank

For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia and Wiki, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia with current1 set to Wikipedia and current2 set to Wiki. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article where the template is placed (Talk:Wikipedia). Do not sign the request with ~~~~, since the template does this automatically (so if you sign it yourself there will be two copies of your signature at the end of the request). Do not skip pairs of numbers.

RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of all pages that are included in your request except the one hosting the discussion, to call attention to the move discussion that is in progress and to suggest that all discussion for all of the pages included in the request should take place at that one hosting location.

For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is itself proposed to be moved, it is not necessary to include the |current1=Current title of page 1 for the page hosting the discussion, as its current title can be inferred automatically. Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace, in which case it is necessary to include |current1= to indicate the first article to be moved.

Request all associated moves explicitly

Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:

• Cricket → Cricket (sport)
• Cricket (disambiguation) → Cricket

If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:

• Cricket (disambiguation) → Cricket

is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.

• Cricket → ?

If a disambiguation page is in the way of a move, the request may be completed as proposing to add (disambiguation).

• Example → Example (disambiguation)

Template usage examples and notes

Talk page tag	Text that will be shown (and usage notes)
{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why}} links talk edit	Requested move 7 November 2024 Wikipedia:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 12:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC) Use when the proposed new title is given. Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:. This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.
{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}}	Requested move 7 November 2024 Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 12:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC) Use when the proposed new title is not known. Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:. This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.
{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why|talk=yes}}	Requested move 7 November 2024 Wikipedia:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 12:35, 7 November 2024‎ (UTC) Survey Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this subsection with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles. Discussion Any additional comments: This template adds subsections for survey and discussion. Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst: Click the "New Section" tab on the talk page and leave the Subject/headline blank, as the template by default automatically creates the heading.
{{subst:Requested move|new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}}	Requested move 7 November 2024 Wikipedia:Requested moves → X y → Z – why Example (talk) 12:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC) Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst: and place this tag at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion. Add additional related move requests in pairs (|current3= and |new3=, |current4= and |new4=, etc.).
{{subst:Requested move|new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}}	Requested move 7 November 2024 Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? y → ? – why Example (talk) 12:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Commenting on a requested move

All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:

• When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g. '''Support'''.
• Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding ~~~~ to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets.
• The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
• Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI.

When participating, please consider the following:

• Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
• Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
• The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
• Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
• Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.
• Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "• Support Oppose".

Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.

Closing a requested move

Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.

Relisting a requested move

Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing. Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.

Relisting should be done using {{subst:RM relist}}, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).

When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.

If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.

Current discussions

This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.

This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 70 discussions have been relisted.

November 7, 2024

• (Discuss) – Hobson Street, Auckland → Hobson Street – Hobson Street originally redirected to King Street, Cambridge. Given the lack of article on a Hobson Street in Cambridge this article is the primary topic and should not occupy any disambiguation. No opposition to a disambiguation page being created at Hobson Street- if and only if another Hobson Street article is created Traumnovelle (talk) 09:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Tyne and Wear Passenger Transport Executive → Nexus (transport operator) – I don't think I have ever heard the full name before. For example this page about the new trains doesn't display the current articles name. WP:CONCISE also applies. Not sure on what the disambiguator could be, but I think its correct. JuniperChill (talk) 18:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RI talk 06:59, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Shakespeare bibliography → William Shakespeare bibliography – Per WP:PRECISE, not WP:MONONYM. Unlike other writers with first names, including J. R. R. Tolkien bibliography, C. S. Lewis bibliography, and Edgar Allan Poe bibliography. Absolutiva (talk) 03:56, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Political appointments by Donald Trump → Political appointments by Donald Trump in his first term – Opening this discussion to discuss a good page name for these pages. As Trump has won a 2nd term, many of his existing presidential pages have been moved to "first ___ " (e.g. First cabinet of Donald Trump, First presidential transition of Donald Trump). Don't think that verbiage works well here, but asking for input for a good naming scheme. Also, feel free to add other pages that should be moved, as Trump is likely to have a new set of appointees, etc, during his 2nd term. Natg 19 (talk) 00:58, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Executive Office appointments by Donald Trump → Executive Office appointments by Donald Trump in his first term
  • List of ambassadors appointed by Donald Trump → List of ambassadors appointed by Donald Trump in his first term
  • List of United States attorneys appointed by Donald Trump → List of United States attorneys appointed by Donald Trump in his first term

• (Discuss) – Miami International Film Festival → Miami Film Festival – This is its current name, but a DAB exists there. As the short film festival has a distinct name, and there are no others on the list, I think that hatnotes would serve the purpose for redirecting from one to the other. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 00:52, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Miami Film Festival → Miami Film Festival (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

• (Discuss) – You Got It All → You Got It All (disambiguation) – The WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is very clearly the Jets song as its page views clearly surpasses both the Union J song and the album that song came from. Evidence per here Turtletennisfogwheat (talk) 00:42, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

November 6, 2024

• (Discuss) – Indo-Pacific Economic Framework → Indo-Pacific Economic Framework for Prosperity – --114.10.139.20 (talk) 22:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Slava Ukraini → Glory to Ukraine – Per WP:USEENGLISH, according to Google Ngram viewer. But also I'm an extended-confirmed user. Absolutiva (talk) 21:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Tajiks of Xinjiang → Chinese Tajiks – In previous discussions over a decade and a half ago, the main points of contention were: "Which name(s) is more commonly used in reliable sources (i.e. WP:COMMONNAME)?" and "Which name(s) is appropriate, given that 'Tajik' is a misnomer because the group is actually ethnic Pamiris?" Since the discussions in 2009, scholarly articles and books have generally been split in usage of "Tajiks of Xinjiang" and "Chinese Tajiks". Neither name solves the second problem, and adding "Pamiris" in parentheses isn't necessary, in my opinion. The group itself has a distinct history and culture, and it is not merely a situation of Pamiris being on a different side of an international border (i.e. not Tajikistan). The Chinese government uses the term "Chinese Tajiks" in English to distinguish the group from Tajiks and Tajikistanis in China. It's also worth noting that members of this ethnic group have travelled and made homes elsewhere in China, so it doesn't make sense to have an article title that limits them to one specific part of the country. This article isn't about Tajiks or Pamiris who live in Xinjiang, but a distinct ethnicity that originated from the region. The article should therefore be renamed and moved to "Chinese Tajiks". Yue🌙 01:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 17:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Wreck of the Mexico → 1837 wreck of the Mexico – This is not the only wreck of a ship named Mexico with an article on Wikipedia which has also been the subject of much coverage. Another wreck is covered at Southport and St Anne's lifeboats disaster -- and depends on whether you are British or American on which is prominent -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 08:45, 30 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). ASUKITE 17:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Philippine drug war → War on drugs in the Philippines – As per previous move requests. The drug operations was never called "Philippine drug war" as in the proper noun. The WP:COMMONNAME for this was Duterte's "War on drugs". It is the termed preferred in the latest Quad committee hearings. I will forego any questions on the scope of the article which has diluted the previous discussion. Let's just focus if "Philippine drug war" and "War on drugs in the Philippines" is the most apt title for this article. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 08:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 09:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Gun Control in the Third Reich (book) → Gun Control in the Third Reich – "Gun Control in the Third Reich" is currently a disambig page, even though it is a natural title for this book's article. A hatnote is already in place. I don't see value in maintaining the separate disambig page. Ich (talk) 16:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – None Pizza Left Beef → None Pizza with Left Beef – On 5 November 2024 at 19:18 UTC, Red Slash (talk · contribs) moved the page in the other direction without discussion. This is in contravention of 7/7 of the reliable secondary sources cited in the article, the further reading link in the article, 6/8 of the marginal/unreliable sources above, and our policy at Wikipedia:Article titles#Deciding on an article title, which says, Article titles are based on how reliable English-language sources refer to the article's subject. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 15:15, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Don't Worry Kyoko (Mummy's Only Looking for Her Hand in the Snow) → Don't Worry Kyoko (Mummy's Only Looking for a Hand in the Snow) – The title of the song is "a" Hand in the Snow, not "Her Hand in the Snow". I understand that an early version used "her" but that is not the final title. Elephantranges (talk) 18:32, 24 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 06:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – List of members of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, 2018–2022 → List of members of the Chamber of Deputies of Italy, 2018–2022 – Excluded from the 12 October discussion. Santiago Claudio (talk) 01:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 06:10, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
  • List of members of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, 2013–2018 → List of members of the Chamber of Deputies of Italy, 2013–2018
  • List of members of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, 2008–2013 → List of members of the Chamber of Deputies of Italy, 2008–2013
  • List of members of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, 1983–1987 → List of members of the Chamber of Deputies of Italy, 1983–1987

• (Discuss) – Hurricane Paul (1982) → Hurricane Paul – very deadly but no retirement — and Gordon does not have the year in its title. AwesomeAndEpicGamer (talk) 21:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:53, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Lokotrans Aréna → Mladá Boleslav Municipal Stadium – Article Lokotrans Aréna should be renamed to Mladá Boleslav Municipal Stadium because Wikipedia generally avoids using commercial names for titles, particularly when they change frequently. This aligns with the established naming convention for municipal stadiums, as seen in articles like Białystok Municipal Stadium. A non-commercial name will also ensure consistency and longevity, given that sponsorship agreements can be temporary, while the location and public function of the stadium remain constant. Paradygmaty (talk) 16:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Paradygmaty (talk) 07:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Louisville International Airport → Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport – The airport was officially renamed 'Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport' in 2019. Although there was previously a move discussion in 2019 where it was argued that this name was not yet commonly recognized. But the name 'Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport' is now well established and widely used in official sources, media, and public. Moving the page to reflect the official, widely recognized name aligns with Wikipedia’s naming conventions for commonly used and official names. Cerium4B (talk) 21:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:43, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – In Sickness and in Health → ? – Currently, In sickness and in health redirects to Marriage vows, and to avoid confusion, this page maybe should have its title moved to something like In Sickness and in Health (television sitcom) or (British sitcom), or etc? Myrealnamm (💬pros · 📜cons) 00:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 00:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:34, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – An Introduction to ..... → Introduction to Roy Harper – or An Introduction to Roy Harper or Introduction to ... or Introduction to... Roy Harper (with or without a space before the ellipsis). This is one of only three articles on Wikipedia that has five consecutive dots in the article title (along with two other albums: Endtroducing..... and 5.....Go). Independent reliable sourcing seems hard to find. Harper's own website listed it with only three dots. Allmusic has "Introduction to Roy Harper". Amazon.com has "Introduction by Harper, Roy". Discogs has "An Introduction To Roy Harper". Discogs (FWIW) has a photo of the liner notes, which say "An Introduction To Roy Harper". See also the prior RM commentary on the article's Talk page from 2010. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:05, 22 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 00:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Meta Platforms → Meta (company) – Although its official name is Meta Platforms, its overwhelmingly WP:COMMONNAME is Meta. PhotographyEdits (talk) 16:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 04:26, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Women in the Bangladesh Army → Women in the Bangladesh Armed Forces – because the article has sections about the navy and air force. 37.111.207.150 (talk) 11:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 03:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Glenrio, New Mexico and Texas → Glenrio – Glenrio is a ghost town located in two states. 2600:1700:6180:6290:CD63:1869:B1AE:B45A (talk) 02:39, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Middle Eastern crisis (2023–present) → Middle Eastern crisis – what are we disambiguating exactly? no need to include the dates in the article name WP:CONCISE Abo Yemen✉ 15:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:53, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – 2019 Tacoma attack → 2019 Tacoma, Washington attack – Per parent article Tacoma, Washington. --Another Believer _(Talk) 01:46, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Hurricane Rafael (2024) → Hurricane Rafael – This Rafael has already quintupled (septupled with missings) the deaths attributed to 2012 and is likely to trump it in damages too after it landfalls in Cuba and the United States. ✶Quxyz✶ 01:45, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Crime 101 (2025 film) → Crime 101 – Scarfies appears to be a little known film, with only two critic reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, and Crime 101 being a mere straight-to-DVD title (it screened as Scarfies at Sundance). A studio film with an A-list cast must trump it in notability. Nardog (talk) 01:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – 5.56×45mm NATO → 5.56 × 45 mm NATO – See MOS:UNITSYMBOLS and decision. Ahri Boy (talk) 00:19, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 01:21, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Wikipedia:Pokémon test → Wikipedia:Historical archive/Policy/Notability/Pokémon test – And, following the move: *List in Wikipedia:Historical archive/Policy/Notability *Do not retarget WP:POKETEST, WP:PTEST, WP:KIT, and WP:KAREN to Wikipedia:Historical archive/Policy/Notability/Pokémon test; instead: *Soft redirect Wikipedia:Pokémon test to Wikipedia:Historical archive/Policy/Notability/Pokémon test, and let the shortcut pages continue to target this then-soft redirect *And a notice at the soft redirect that there had been content at this name which had been cited as an essay but it was in fact never an essay and should not be cited as an argument in discussions—similar in form (as a soft redirect, meaning soft redirect + notice) Wikipedia:PORNBIO, Wikipedia:Don't be a dick ... This page is not an essay. It is marked as essay, and it should not be. It is a summary of historical discussions, arguments and other activities during a specific period. Whenever this is cited as an essay, that's only causes confusion. This page is naturally one of the Wikipedia:Historical archive/Policy/Notability pages. It also fits within the timeframe, being created in 2006. Doing this would make the Wikipedia historical archive on notability better. —Alalch E. 01:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Danielle Evans → deleted to make room for move – Sole Wikipedia entry for an author whose pen name is Danielle Evans, not the full "Danielle Valore Evans", as confirmed by the eight inline cites under her section header "References" as well as five links under "External links". The only other entry upon the currently existing Danielle Evans disambiguation page is for model Dani Evans who is referenced as "Dani", not "Danielle", by the four inline cites under her section header "Sources" as well as three links under "External links". A hatnote atop each woman's entry pointing to the other should suffice. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Danielle Valore Evans → Danielle Evans

November 5, 2024

• (Discuss) – Interstate 87 (New York) → Interstate 87 in New York – Both I-87s are supposed to be connected to each other via New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia. 2600:1700:6180:6290:CD63:1869:B1AE:B45A (talk) 23:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Interstate 87 (North Carolina) → Interstate 87 in North Carolina

• (Discuss) – Gamergate (harassment campaign) → Gamergate – In /Archive 13#Requested moves (12 November 2014), there was no consensus to move to Gamergate due to recentism and whether it is the primary topic. In Talk:Gamergate (ant)/Archive 3#Requested move 20 August 2021, there was consensus to move the ant species to use its qualifier. It is now clear that there is no recentism issue, and the hatnote indicates this is the primary topic "GamerGate redirects here. For other uses, see Gamergate (disambiguation)." Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 22:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Gamergate → Gamergate (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

• (Discuss) – Kyle Harrison → Deleted to make way for page move – Primary topic. Per WP:PTOPIC. See, inter alia, 88% pageviews. Over the past 3 years, the proposed primary topic has received 61,000 views, vs 8,000 for the other person with the same name.[17]) 17:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 22:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Kyle Harrison (baseball) → Kyle Harrison

• (Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Białystok) → Białystok Municipal Stadium – I am submitting this request to revert the article title of the stadium in Białystok to its previous title, Białystok Municipal Stadium in light of recent actions by the user FromCzech. The move to the Polish-language title Stadion Miejski (Białystok) was made unilaterally and appears inconsistent with Wikipedia's guidelines, specifically WP:UE. This guideline encourages the use of English translations where appropriate to maintain accessibility for the global readership. FromCzech has argued for the name change without prior discussion, potentially as a reaction to a naming debate on Lokotrans Aréna that I initiated. This recent move does not reflect a consensus, and it also disrupts the established consistency within the "Football venues in Poland" category, where nearly all stadium names are translated into English. Notable examples include Father Władysław Augustynek Stadium, Gdynia Municipal Stadium, Kielce Municipal Stadium, and Raków Municipal Stadium. I urge that the title "Białystok Municipal Stadium" be restored to uphold Wikipedia’s principles of consistency and transparency, while also preventing this matter from being affected by personal disputes or editing motivated by anything other than Wikipedia's editorial standards. Paradygmaty (talk) 21:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Constance of Aragon → Constance of Aragon, Holy Roman Empress – No primary topic. Srnec (talk) 19:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Constance of Aragon (disambiguation) → Constance of Aragon

• (Discuss) – Lamb and mutton → Sheep meat – "Sheep meat" already covers both lamb (i.e. young sheep) and mutton (i.e. mature sheep), but it is more concise and avoids the "X and Y" format (which is awkward, and best avoided where possible according to the article title guidelines.) 🦬 Beefaloe 🦬 19:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Belle Haven, Virginia → Belle Haven, Virginia (disambiguation) – Belle Haven is a settlement located in two counties. 2600:1700:6180:6290:ED8E:28D7:94A9:E4AD (talk) 02:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:24, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 15:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Belle Haven, Accomack County, Virginia → Belle Haven, Virginia

• (Discuss) – Crown Office → Crown Office in Chancery – This name can refer to either the Crown Office in Chancery (central UK Government) or the Crown Office & Procurator Fiscal Service (devolved Scottish Government). Currently Crown Office refers to the London institution with Crown Office in Chancery being a redirect to it. I would prefer that these be swapped around so that Crown Office in Chancery becomes the name of the article and Crown Office becomes a disambiguation page. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 11:28, 27 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). estar8806 (talk) ★ 19:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 15:45, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Lost (2004 TV series) → Lost (TV series) – Likely WP:PRIMARYPDAB over the two other Lost TV series, per a ~63:1 pageview ratio with the 2001 and the 2021 series combined and per long-term pageview statistics. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 18:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 11:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Libera Università Internazionale degli Studi Sociali Guido Carli → Luiss University – WP:COMMONNAME in English Pantarch (talk) 10:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Libera Università Maria SS. Assunta → LUMSA University – WP:COMMONNAME in English Pantarch (talk) 10:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Mezhdunarodnaya (Moscow Metro) → Moskva-City (Filyovskaya line) – The station was renamed and its official English name is Moskva-City per the map here. The "COMMONNAME" argument is completely incorrect since using the outdated name will only confuse those who will use this article to navigate in the metro. 212.3.142.55 (talk) 23:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 09:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Mumbai Xpress → Mumbai Xpress (2005 Tamil film) – Since there is a Mumbai Xpress (2005 Hindi film) now. DareshMohan (talk) 08:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Gitmo playlist → Music torture in the war on terror – About half of the sources on the page currently lump in music torture at Gitmo with the other American detention camps in the War on Terror, so I think we should expand the scope of this article beyond Gitmo. @AirshipJungleman29 did suggest "Auditory torture in Guantanamo Bay", but most of the sources almost exclusively focus on music. It's possible both are just pitfalls of music, but I think this is still good enough reason for a move. Based5290 :3 (talk) 07:35, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Hasmah Mohamad Ali → Siti Hasmah Mohamad Ali – The article in question was originally titled 'Siti Hasmah Mohamad Ali'. An editor renamed the title to 'Hasmah Mohamad Ali' without any previous discussion. The BLP's name change has yet to gain currency in the reliable mainstream sources. The old name/title should be maintaind in the meantime.
  Perusal of government record as far as 1975 also shows 'Dr. (Puan) Siti Hasmah binti Haji Mohd Ali'.

References

Sreeking (talk) 00:08, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Fischer random chess → Chess 960 – "Chess 960" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this chess variant, based on press coverage (newspapers.com articles found from the last 20 years: 82 mentioning "Chess 960" and 65 mentioning Fischer Random Chess, many mentioning both), major chess sites including chess.com and lichess.org, recent books, and chess organizations. Other Wikipedias have also started to move away from "Fischer" in the title with 20 out of 39 using "960" in the title instead. While Fischer Random Chess is still often used as a term, it is no longer the most common name. In recent years, "Fischer Random Chess" is typically mentioned only once in reliable sources, often parenthetically or as a secondary term, with "Chess 960" used for the remainder of the article, book, etc. While the article does discuss several other variants, the focus of the article is Chess 960 and it makes sense to keep the article history connected to Chess 960 as a topic. As to "Chess 960" vs. "Chess960", including the space seems to be more frequent based on newspapers.com and Google searches, but both are often used. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Senior sport → Masters sport – Masters is the more common term around the world, for most sports. See the articles on Masters athletics, Masters swimming etc. Also 'senior' can refer to anyone over 18 (ie not a 'junior'). Craobh àrd (talk) 17:07, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 06:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Ancient Celtic religion → Celtic paganism – As per the previous move request, WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONSISTENCY. "Ancient Celtic religion" receives a mere 180 Google Scholar results, while "Celtic paganism" receives 985 from the same site. Furthermore, the name "Ancient Celtic religion" (and associated category) is inconsistent with names of other articles on historical religions, which do not use "ancient" and use "paganism" instead of "religion", e.g. Germanic paganism and Slavic paganism. Even the article Proto-Celtic paganism obeys this structure. Midnight-Blue766 (talk) 22:46, 24 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 06:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Peanut (squirrel) → Death of Peanut the squirrel – The vast majority of the coverage of this animal appears to be about the animal's death rather than about the animal's life. I think this article might be better focused on that event and cover the squirrel's life in the context of the main focus of coverage here. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 02:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Minister for Northern Australia → Minister for Northern Australia (disambiguation) – The federal portfolio is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The NT portfolio is defunct and minor. DilatoryRevolution (talk) 00:31, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Minister for Northern Australia (Australia) → Minister for Northern Australia

November 4, 2024

• (Discuss) – Williams Grand Prix Engineering → Williams Racing – Fairly clear example of WP:COMMONNAME. Mb2437 (talk) 14:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 23:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Prince Emil of Hesse and by Rhine → Prince Emil of Hesse – Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CRITERIA, WP:NCPRINCES, and WP:SURPRISE, I request that the title for the article on the fourth son of Louis I, Grand Duke of Hesse be changed. An extended rationale follows on the article's talk page. AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 21:43, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Aesculus glabra → Ohio buckeye – WP:FLORACOMMONNAME Kolano123 (talk) 20:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – White Party (Sean Combs) → Diddy Parties – As stated in the article, Diddy Parties is more commonly referred to with regards to White parties by Sean Combs (Diddy). Proposing move per WP:CONCISE, WP:COMMONNAME, and WP:PRECISE. Other alternatives like Diddy Party, White Party (Diddy), etc. are not off the table. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 18:57, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Arthur Shurlock → Art Shurlock – Per WP:COMMONNAME. The destination page currently serves as a redirect to this one and it should be the other way around. Subject is most commonly identified as Art, not by his full name of Arthur. This can be observed via USA Gymnastics, UCLA Bruins athletics, Cal Bears athletics, UIC Flames athletics, Los Angeles Times, etc. GauchoDude (talk) 18:46, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Oakland Athletics → Athletics (baseball) – Or Athletics (baseball club). The team has left Oakland for good, and MLB.com now lists the team without a city identifier. This is a full RM because of the issues mentioned in the sections above this on the talk page; feel free to also discuss whether the Oakland Athletics page (the current location) should redirect or be split off. O.N.R. ^(talk) 16:39, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Negative responsiveness paradox → Negative responsiveness – Opening this up for discussion to refine a previous bold move from monotonicity criterion a few weeks back, see also previous section discussion other possible options, which include Additional support paradox, Less-is-more paradox, reverting back to the old title, or possibly inverted versions of the suggested titles (e.g. monotonicity failure/anomaly or positive response/iveness). There is an argument from Closed Limelike Curves to favour the negative as it seems more intuitive, and no consensus on whether there is a clear common name in literature. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:49, 27 October 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. FOARP (talk) 15:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Umayyad conquest of Sindh → Umayyad conquest of Sindh – The article includes the Rashidun conquest of Sindh in addition to Umayyad conquest Waleed (talk) 15:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Love Live! School Idol Project (TV series) → List of Love Live! School Idol Project episodes – As with other episode list pages, moving to "List of Love Live! School Idol Project episodes" might make sense and be more appropriate. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Love Live! Sunshine!! (TV series) → List of Love Live! Sunshine!! episodes
  • Love Live! Superstar!! (TV series) → List of Love Live! Superstar!! episodes

• (Discuss) – John Savage (actor) → John Savage – "John Savage (actor)" is the clear primary topic by usage. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
  • John Savage → John Savage (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

• (Discuss) – Bug Hunter → Bug Hunter (game) – WP:PTOPIC: Pageviews between the band and game this year are 8:1 (despite the What Links Here pageview ratio being 1:62), and Google searching "bug hunter" instantly pulls up the band while nothing about the game until page 7. Koopastar (talk) 03:12, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Bug Hunter (band) → Bug Hunter

• (Discuss) – ATM → ATM (disambiguation) – ATM should redirect to Automatic teller machine (ATM) per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Pageview data from this ATM disambiguation page shows the machine article get more traffic than the other topics combined. When users search for "ATM," the vast majority are seeking information about banking machines rather than the many other, less common meanings. The other topics would remain easily accessible via a hatnote on the Automated teller machine article:
  "ATM" redirects here. For other uses, see ATM (disambiguation).
  Other notable abbreviations with a widely recognized primary topic, like NASA or URL, already employ similar redirects. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 02:50, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

November 3, 2024

• (Discuss) – Telangana State Wakf Board → Telangana State Waqf Board – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Kumar Dayal (talk) 17:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 23:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Tel al-Sultan attack → ? – I am bringing this discussion back up with a stronger argument and after the Good Article review has concluded. I have identified many sources calling this incident a massacre. There are likely more, so feel free to add any. They include The Guardian (opinion piece), Morrocco World News, The Peninsula Qatar, Truthout, Al-Ahram, Daily Sabah, Jacobin, Vox (Not explicitly, though cites someone calling it one, says it’s a slaughter in headline, and says Israel is massacring Palestinians), TRT World (Partially reliable) Le Monde, Middle East Eye, El Pais, The New Arab, Mondoweiss, Gulf News, Huffington Post (Disputed reliability), The Intercept, The Nation (opinion piece), Aljazeera and Aljazeera Arabic. Many mainstream media articles also cite people who describe the attack as a massacre, though do not explicitly claim it to be so. Humanitarian groups Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor and Doctors Without Borders have described the incident as a massacre. Officials of Colombia,[18] Saudi Arabia,[19] the State of Palestine,[20] and the Organization of Islamic States[21] have called the attack a massacre. United Nations Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories Francesca Albanese has called it a massacre.[22] Additionally, Hamas and the Palestinian Civil Defense in Rafah have called the incident a massacre.[23] Last time, there was also the issue of whether the attacks were intentional, as “massacre” is a loaded word that may imply intentionally killing civilians. Firstly, NYT quotes an expert who suggests Israel may have tried to mitigate harm but accepted civilian casualties,[24] and an MSNBC analysis indicates Israel should have known there were civilians in the area.[25] Al-Jazeera’s fact checking agency[26] and India Today[27] think so, and suggestions by Israel that a weapons dump exploded have been refuted by the New York Times, who found no evidence of the claim.[28] Egypt[29] and the PA[30] also allege that it was intentional. There is still the issue of what exactly to call the article in any case. We have some options:
  A: Keep it the same, Tel al-Sultan _.
  B: Rafah tent camp _.
  C: Just "Rafah _" Personisinsterest (talk) 21:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Tatar (disambiguation) → Tatar – This adjective currently redirects to the plural meaning a people, but there's also the language, and it's common to see such adjectives disambiguated. From the topic area, vaguely similar examples may include Turkic, where readers proceed to both the languages and the peoples; Turkish, most people proceed to language; Kipchak, readers visit people but also language and another major topic. Page history for the redirect that would need to be replaced here indicates this was last attempted in 2017, and last discussed in 2005. There was a recent discussion at Talk:Tatar language (disambiguation) where there was no opposition to this idea, at the same time, it wasn't the primary focus there, and this requires disambiguating over 700 links, so it merits a discussion of its own. --Joy (talk) 18:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Quercus robur → English oak – WP:COMMONNAME Kolano123 (talk) 17:31, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Quercus petraea → Sessile oak

• (Discuss) – Wikipedia and antisemitism → Allegations of antisemitism on Wikipedia – One of the names suggested by Piotrus. The article primarily covers cases which are too controversial to label as antisemitism in wikivoice, so I think Antisemitism on Wikipedia would be a WP:POVNAME. The current Wikipedia and antisemitism might be okay (see also WP:AND), but "allegations" or "accusations" feels a bit safer, making it extra clear that the scope includes allegations whose merit Wikipedia does not take a position on. "Allegations" also feels like the most conventional name, matching most names in Category:Allegations. — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 17:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron → Wikipedia:WikiProject Article Rescue Squadron – It's a WikiProject.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  15:50, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Hussein of Jordan → Hussein, King of Jordan – It's been over a year since the last discussion so I think it's time to revisit this. First of all, the current title fails WP:PRECISE by presuming this article is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. While that may be true by long-term significance, pageviews tell a different story [31], and we are supposed to consider both when judging a primary topic. Additionally, last time around King Hussein was proposed as a reasonable alternative, but that also fails WP:PRECISE as there is another king known by the name of Hussein, Hussein bin Ali, King of Hejaz, who's long-term significance is not negligible. estar8806 (talk) ★ 15:24, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Adelaide United FC (A-League Women) → Adelaide United FC (women) – Standard disambiguation is to just write women not have the league as the disambiguator RedPatch (talk) 14:30, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Brisbane Roar FC (A-League Women) → Brisbane Roar FC (women)
  • Central Coast Mariners FC (A-League Women) → Central Coast Mariners FC (women)
  • Melbourne City FC (A-League Women) → Melbourne City FC (women)
  • Melbourne Victory FC (A-League Women) → Melbourne Victory FC (women)
  • Newcastle Jets FC (A-League Women) → Newcastle Jets FC (women)
  • Perth Glory FC (A-League Women) → Perth Glory FC (women)
  • Sydney FC (A-League Women) → Sydney FC (women)
  • Wellington Phoenix FC (A-League Women) → Wellington Phoenix FC (women)
  • Western Sydney Wanderers FC (A-League Women) → Western Sydney Wanderers FC (women)
  • Western United FC (A-League Women) → Western United FC (women)

• (Discuss) – Dafydd ap Gruffydd → Dafydd ap Gruffudd – Ngrams suggest that the proposed spelling has been the one most commonly used since 1987. This spelling would be WP:CONSISTENT with the article titles for his brother Llywelyn ap Gruffudd and (especially relevant in a patronymic naming system) their father Gruffudd ap Llywelyn ab Iorwerth. The same trend can be seen in the ngrams for both the brother's name (Llywelyn ap Gruffudd is the more common spelling from 1988) and the father's (Gruffudd ap Llywelyn is the more common spelling from 1982). The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entries for all three (published in 2004, with revisions for Llywelyn in 2008 and Dafydd in 2023) spell Gruffudd with a second U rather than a Y. The Dictionary of Welsh Biography entries for the three spell the name with a Y, but they are from 1959. The ngrams suggest that there has been a movement towards favouring the spelling Gruffudd for decades. Ham II (talk) 11:03, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Platanus × hispanica → London plane – WP:COMMONNAME Kolano123 (talk) 10:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – RSM-56 Bulava → ? – The new user Vlad97531 (talk · contribs) attempted a cut-and-paste move to R-30 Bulava in order "to conform with common designations of other Russian SLBMs". Then they brought it to WP:RMTR, which was contested. From RMTR –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 09:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Yi Tjoune → Yi Chun – I think "Yi Tjoune", while possibly attested to in a contemporary French-language document on the talk page, is such an unconventional and otherwise uncommon romanization that it's better to default to MR per WP:KOREANNAME. I can't really find any uses of that spelling in current writings, whereas I can find uses of "Yi Chun" in like [32][33] seefooddiet (talk) 08:28, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Bada → Bada (operating system) – Pageview stats show the operating system is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Looking at pageview data for the last two years, Bada (singer) has received more than double the average monthly pageviews of Bada (operating system), and more than all the other "Bada"-titled articles combined. See: pageview stats. Note that a case could also be made under WP:PT1 for the following, given the singer's significant traffic advantage over all other "Bada"-titled articles combined: * and leave Bada (disambiguation) as-is.
  This is depending on whether we consider the pageviews of Minicoy, which has a village named "Bada" (though it is barely mentioned in the article) and is linked from Bada (disambiguation), to be one of the possible topics for "Bada": massviews RachelTensions (talk) 03:24, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Bada (disambiguation) → Bada

• (Discuss) – Vitalstatistix → Vitalstatistix (disambiguation) – Primary redirect (with possibilities) to a section (List of Asterix characters#Vitalstatistix), that section being about 2000 words long and well referenced. The character is the primary topic by both usage and long-term significance over the only other meaning, a women's theatre company based in Port Adelaide, South Australia which has a great deal of web presence but this is understandable given their advocacy activities. Andrewa (talk) 03:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Tropicana Products → Tropicana Brands Group – The entity responsible for Tropicana has been spun-off as a joint-venture between PepsiCo and PAI Partners in 2021. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 22:57, 26 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 01:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Aplochitonidae → Aplochitoninae – As I understand Family-group names of Recent fishes , ITIS, and WoRMS, Aplochitonidae has been converted to the subfamily Aplochitoninae. jlwoodwa (talk) 01:03, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Wade Wilson → Wade Wilson (disambiguation) – Deadpool is the primary topic. See pageviews, and consider the long-term significance. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:30, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Terrifier (film series) → Terrifier (franchise) – Can the page be Terrifier (franchise) again, as it now has comics, books, and games? 201.92.21.175 (talk) 00:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

November 2, 2024

• (Discuss) – Template:CSRAUniCol → Template:Colleges and universities in the Central Savannah River Area – The article title does not make sense at all. 2600:1700:6180:6290:95A0:5023:7AAF:CDB6 (talk) 22:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Joe Locke (actor) → Joe Locke – Following two high-profiles roles in critically acclaimed series (Netflix's Heartstopper and Marvel's Agatha All Along), the actor has clearly surpassed the other primary-topic contender, Joe Locke (musician), by a wide margin. Note that both articles were only created recently (2020 and 2021, respectively). The all-time pageviews can dispel any concerns with recentism. See also WikiNav. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Joe Locke → Joe Locke (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

• (Discuss) – Kang Yu-mi → Kang Yu-mi (footballer) – Kang the comedian seems to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC currently, as seen by the pageviews. On Google, it's a close case, but just searching the name there are a little bit more results for the comedian on page 1 (from page two results start being about different, non-notable subjects), and on Google Trends the comedian is more searched than the soccer player. Wuju Daisuki ^{(Talk? 뭐 그까이꺼 대충!)} 21:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Kang Yu-mi (comedian) → Kang Yu-mi

• (Discuss) – Michael Scott (film director) → Michael M. Scott – "(film director)" is limiting, he introduced as "director, producer and documentary filmmaker" in the article. Michael Scott (filmmaker) is a redirect to Ryan vs. Dorkman, so already taken. In his article Michael Scott (film director) he is referred to as "Michael M. Scott" (this needs confirmation from a reliable source though). Note that Category:Films directed by Michael M. Scott has existed for four years but needs to be populated. I couldn't find any guidance in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people). Commander Keane (talk) 20:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Pahang Old Royal Mausoleum → Pekan Royal Mausoleum – Since Pekan refers to a specific town and Pahang is a broader district, the suggested title—supported by the majority of sources—should be adopted as per WP:COMMONNAME 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 19:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Evacuation of the Louvre museum art collection during World War II → Evacuation of the Louvre collection during World War II – Simplification of the title. Alternative ideas welcome. Maybe even just "Evacuation of the Louvre during World War II"? SSR07 (talk) 15:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 18:00, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Robert Roberson case → Robert Roberson – This is a bio article and "case" in title makes no sense nor is accurate of what the entire article is about. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 16:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 17:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Jesus in Ahmadiyya Islam → Jesus in Ahmadiyya – All the sects of Islam reject them as Muslims Therealbey (talk) 17:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Bhajan Lal Bishnoi → Bhajan Lal – As per all the available sources in the article, his full name is "Bhajan Lal" instead of "Bhajan Lal Bishnoi". According to his election affidavit too (https://www (dot) google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://docs.myneta.info/affidavits/hr2005/704/BHAJAN%2520LAL.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjw-LyAmb6JAxVsUGwGHfp9BxUQFnoECBUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0EA-rD9PyrxBewduu7tr-S), his full name is "Bhajan Lal". Dympies (talk) 17:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – M1117 Armored Security Vehicle → M1117 armored security vehicle – Not consistently capped in sources. Typical uses of capitalization are for defining the acronym, as in Armored Security Vehicle (ASV). And per WP:MILCAPS, we use lowercase after M numbers except when it's a proper name, which armored security vehicle is not. Dicklyon (talk) 16:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Model railroad layout → Model railway layout – Railway is more global and less US-specific Hexalogical (talk) 10:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – 2024–25 SA20 → 2025 SA20 – To use the name in which year the event has taken place rather than the cricket season. Many other cricket league are named liked that. For example 2024 International League T20 was also played at the cricket season of 2023-24 but it is named in the year which it was held. Kumarpramit (talk) 08:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
  • 2023–24 SA20 → 2024 SA20
  • 2022–23 SA20 → 2023 SA20

• (Discuss) – Kim Young-ok → Kim Young-ok (disambiguation) – Pretty clear WP:PT1 case here; of all other articles for people commonly known as "Kim Young-ok" (or one of its alternative romanizations), over the last 18 months the actress's article has received around 10x more pageviews than the rest of them combined. pageview stats RachelTensions (talk) 06:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Kim Young-ok (actress) → Kim Young-ok

• (Discuss) – List of organizations that self-identify as Native American tribes → List of groups not recognized by the United States as tribes – In reviewing the previous discussion on the list title, I noticed significant confusion and disorganization. So to review the previously proposed titles: * List of Native American heritage groups * List of unrecognized Indigenous nations * List of unrecognized Native American tribes * List of unrecognized tribes in the United States * List of corporations posing as Indigenous nations * List of corporations self-identifying as Indigenous nations * List of groups that self-identify as Native American tribes * List of organizations self-identifying as Native American tribes * List of unrecognized organizations identifying as Native American tribes * List of unrecognized organizations that self-identify as Native American tribes In summary, the proposed variations: * The main noun: groups, nations, tribes, organizations, corporations * The descriptor: "Indigenous", "Native American", "in the United States" * The qualifier: "posing as", "identifying as" "self-identifying as", "that self-identify as" "unrecognized", "heritage" Now the stated purpose of the move was WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE. These principles emphasize that titles should be no longer than necessary yet descriptive and precise enough to convey the topic clearly to those familiar with the subject matter. However, these principles weren't directly addressed in the discussion and appeared only as boilerplate guidance in the move dialog. Let's evaluate the proposals based on concision and precision: * Main noun: On the basis of concision, "groups" and "tribes" are the best options. In fact, it was noted that "groups" was less wordy. Yet instead an argument was made based on WP:CONSISTENCY, identifying WikiProject Organizations, which is not even a mainspace page. A search of mainspace shows that both groups and organizations are used, with about 736 group lists vs. 528 organization lists. As such, consistency, to the extent there is any when it is so close to 50/50, agrees with concision in using the shorter choice "groups". * Descriptor: While calling these groups "tribes" is controversial, labeling them as "self-identified Native American tribes" is also problematic. For example, the Cherokee Nation identifies itself as a tribe, but including it on this list would be inappropriate. Additionally, "Indigenous" raises broader issues related to colonialism. Descriptions limited to "United States" are more neutral, although not without controversy, as seen in discussions on topics like secessionists and the sovereign citizen movement, but currently those positions are considered WP:FRINGE so it seems safe to use. * Qualifier: "Heritage" is the most concise, as it doesn't require an "as" clause, but it was mentioned that some organizations claim Native American heritage without identifying as having tribal status. A title like "List of United States heritage groups" makes clear that this word does not capture the scope of the desired list. "Unrecognized" is clear and concise - in the previous discussion, it was left out as it made the title "slightly shorter and simpler", but I would argue it is necessary. "Identify" and "self-identify" are not precise enough to distinguish federally recognized tribes from unrecognized tribes. As for "posing", it seems clear it would be a separate list from the current one under discussion. Although, there was the statement that "reliable sources on legitimacy are not 'very scarce'. It really isn't 'muddy' if you're familiar with the field", so perhaps this list will split in the future into "list of legitimate unrecognized tribes" and "list of posers". So this leaves us with the words "groups", "tribes", "United States", and "unrecognized". Plug those through the title generator and... out comes "List of groups not recognized by the United States as tribes". This title seems clear, neutral, and concise in adherence with Wikipedia's guidelines. To compare lengths: * Previous: List of unrecognized tribes in the United States, 48 chars * Current: List of organizations that self-identify as Native American tribes, 66 chars * Proposed: List of groups not recognized as tribes by the United States, 60 chars The proposed title is similar to the previous one but avoids the appearance of potential bias. In a similar discussion, it was determined that the title "List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as hate groups" was necessary over the shorter alternative "List of hate groups designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center" for clarity and neutrality. And the proposed title here is both more concise and precise than the current option. Other variations would be: * List of Native American groups not recognized by the United States as tribes, 76 chars * List of groups the United States does not recognize as tribes, 61 chars * List of groups unrecognized as tribes by the United States, 58 chars However, these alternatives are either longer or use awkward phrasing. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 17:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – First Battle of Panipat → First battle of Panipat – These are mostly lowercase in sources, until a recent uptick in caps likely influenced by Wikipedia, and still not close to the MOS:CAPS threshold of "consistently capitalized" in reliable sources. Dicklyon (talk) 16:21, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Second Battle of Panipat → Second battle of Panipat
  • Third Battle of Panipat → Third battle of Panipat

• (Discuss) – 2024 The Republicans alliance crisis → 2024 The Republicans (France) crisis – As it was already argued above, the article is and should be focused on the internal crisis within The Republicans (France) party. Its alignment in the 2024 French legislative election was only the final issue of several debates that have divided the party over the years. I agree with User:Paul Vaurie's initial proposal, while I am less convinced by the outcome of the previous discussion, the current name that was proposed by User:Couruu. Surely, "2024 The Republicans (France) crisis" would also be consistent with 2016 The Republicans (France) presidential primary, 2017 The Republicans (France) leadership election, 2019 The Republicans (France) leadership election and 2022 The Republicans (France) leadership election (2021 The Republicans congress should be moved), as well as several other articles including 2024 Liberal Democratic Party (Japan) presidential election. -- Checco (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 06:02, 18 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 09:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Neopanax colensoi → Pseudopanax colensoi – WP:COMMONNAME and WP:FLORA - overwhelming usage within recent scientific papers, despite mixed use in taxonomic databases. Without a clear scientific basis for a preference of one name over the other, MOS:ENGVAR/MOS:TIES: that there is a clear consensus among New Zealand scientific sources for a clade of plants endemic to New Zealand. *Neopanax and Pseudopanax together form a clade. Currently there are three morphological forms of the species within this clade - two are always described as Pseudopanax, while one (the more basal form) is sometimes described as Neopanax and sometimes Pseudopanax. page 52 of this thesis has a useful graph showing phylogenetic relationships within the group. Neopanax was synonymised with Pseudopanax in the 20th century, re-established as a genus in 2004, but the justification of this was disputed in 2009. The distinction appears to be one based on conventions rather than a clear scientific justification (i.e. less based on whether or not Neopanax is a distinct clade within Pseudopanax, and more based on whether it's justified to use a different name for this clade, or to continue to use the pre-2004 convention). This issue was previously discussed at WikiProject Plants. *Different taxonomical databases use different preferred names. Pseudopanax is overwhelmingly used by New Zealand databases. **Pseudopanax preferred: NZ Flora, Biota of New Zealand, IUCN, iNaturalist, NZOR and NZTCS **Neopanax preferred: CoL, EoL, GBIF, IRMNG, NCBI, OTOL, POWO *Recent scientific sources outside of taxonomic databases overwhelmingly prefer Pseudopanax. Looking at Post-2020 Google Scholar results for species within the Neopanax clade:

*Neopanax arboreus 6 *Neopanax colensoi 3 *Neopanax kermadecensis 0 *Neopanax laetus 0 *Neopanax macintyrei 1 *Pseudopanax arboreus 150 *Pseudopanax colensoi 29 *Pseudopanax kermadecensis 3 *Pseudopanax laetus 4 *Pseudopanax macintyrei 2

Prosperosity (talk) 00:57, 6 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 08:05, 13 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 14:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:13, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• • Neopanax laetus → Pseudopanax laetus

• (Discuss) – Tag Team (group) → Tag Team (duo) – They're a duo, not a group. Exactly two people. "Duo" is an acceptable disambiguation per Trout Fishing in America (duo), Love and Theft (duo), et al. I think the last two move requests got muddied because some were pulling for whether or not the disambiguator should be added at all, but this time I am only pushing for a move to "Tag Team (duo)" because, well, they are a duo, not a group. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Supercell (video game company) → Supercell Ltd – The official name of the company is "Supercell Ltd." WP:COMMONNAME states that articles should use the name most commonly recognized. Renaming the article to "Supercell Ltd" would be consistent with Wikipedia's treatment of other company articles that use their official names (e.g. "Rockstar Games"). The current title, "Supercell (video game company)," is used to disambiguate but is less WP:PRECISE than using the company’s official name; see also WP:CONCISION. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 15:22, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:31, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 03:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Swedish Brother's Feud → ? – The current title is perhaps a partial translation of Den andra brödrastriden (no source is given), but as far as I know, the conflict doesn't have an established name. Since Wikipedia's scope is global and it covers all time periods, this short title seems somewhat weird. Also, it should be Swedish brothers' feud, with plural brothers and without capitalization, since it is not really a proper name but a descriptive phrase. I suggest two alternatives, between which I am quite undecided: * Conflict between Birger Magnusson and his brothers, based on the title of Jerker Rosén's dissertation "Striden mellan Birger Magnusson och hans bröder : studier i nordisk politisk historia 1302-1319". * Inter-Nordic conflict of 1302–1319, based on Sverre Bagge's article Aims and means in the inter‐Nordic conflicts 1302–1319 (I don't think the plural is absolutely necessary, and using it might suggest that the article is a list). The latter title would make the focus of the article a bit wider. This would help avoid duplicating content, since the strife between Magnussons is already covered in their biographies. However, going into detail about the power-play between different kingdoms (See Bagge's article) might be a distraction in the biographies, but could be discussed here. Sundberg 2010 calls this Kampen mellan Birger och hans bröder 1304–1310. Sundberg's time limits are explained by his focus on armed conflict. However, I think Rosén's and Bagge's temporal limits make more sense, since the political conflict already starts when Birger becomes of age 1302, and ends in 1319 to his deposition. — Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:10, 15 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 14:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 02:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Robert Miller (businessman) → Robert Miller (Canadian businessman) – Resolve another hairy partial disambiguation mess. # Robert Miller (businessman) could apply to anyone at Robert Miller#Business # Robert Miller (composer) could also apply to Bob Miller (composer, born 1895) - I'm drawing a blank on any way of disambiguating him, though. # Robert Miller (American football) could also apply to Bob Miller (American football) maybe that article should be moved to Bob Miller (tackle) as well. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Robert Miller (composer) → ?
  • Robert Miller (American football) → Robert Miller (running back)

• (Discuss) – 2021 Western Kentucky tornado → 2021 Mayfield tornado – The new copy-edited lede changed by @Baffle gab1978 brought to me the realization that Wikipedia is one of the few places on the web referring to this event by this name. As the majority of coverage was in Mayfield, it has informally become known as the Mayfield tornado by sources, and as such Wikipedia should in theory call it that too per WP:COMMONNAME. Also, per WP:Naming conventions (events), [i]f more than one name is in common use, the name used by NOAA or an official weather agency should take precedence except in extraordinary circumstances, and there should be redirects from any other names. This source from the NCEI, a roundup of December 2021 events, states [t]he historic “Mayfield tornado,” as its commonly called, was on the ground for 165.7 miles, had peak winds of 190 mph, and resulted in 55+ fatalities, and as far as I'm aware there's no NOAA/NWS sources calling it the "Western Kentucky tornado" (p.s., I'm using this usa.gov search tool to query this, and that returned 0 for "Western Kentucky tornado"). Strictly off policy, I would boldly move this, but as this is one of the most important tornado articles in today's Wikipedia, I thought I'd start a discussion. Departure– (talk) 00:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – The King of Comedy → The King of Comedy (disambiguation) – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The film is the only match for the name “The King of Comedy” (other entries are simply “King of Comedy”). Addressing any concerns about WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT (such as with nicknames), Wikinav shows that the majority of visitors to the disambiguation page went to the film (86% for this September): clickstream data -- Dantus21 (talk) 00:27, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
  • The King of Comedy (film) → The King of Comedy

November 1, 2024

• (Discuss) – Constance, Queen of Sicily → Constance I of Sicily – It appears that Constance II was a reigning queen of Sicily, as she was succeeded by her sons James and Frederick. Векочел (talk) 23:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Constance of Sicily, Queen of Aragon → Constance II of Sicily

• (Discuss) – Home improvement → Home renovation – Home renovation currently redirects to Home improvement, rather than to either a separate article on Home repair or to a general article on Renovation. Thus, it is likely that a majority of users who type "home improvement" are searching for the familiar TV sitcom. Those researching how to remodel a house probably know the sitcom's title and may prefer to type "home renovation". In any event, there is no need for Home improvement (disambiguation) to carry the parenthetical qualifier "(disambiguation)" since all the other entries use uppercase "I". The lowercase Home improvement can then redirect to the renamed uppercase Home Improvement dab page which would, of course, still carry an entry stating — "Home improvement, alternative name for Home renovation". — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Home improvement (disambiguation) → Home Improvement

• (Discuss) – Steve Miller (author) → Steve Miller (author, born 1967) – Per my prior comment at Talk:Steve Miller (ice hockey), resolve a series of unjustified partial disambiguations here and ensure each of these people has a qualifier that doesn't apply to any of the others. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Steve Miller (American football coach) → Steve Miller (American football coach, born 1943)
  • Steven Miller (gridiron football) → Steven Miller (gridiron football, born 1941)
  • Steve Miller (athletics) → Steve Miller (Chicago athlete)
  • Steve Miller (business) → ?
  • Stephen Miller (athlete) → Stephen Miller (British athlete)
  • Stephen Miller (writer) → Stephen Miller (writer, born 1941)

• (Discuss) – Michael Cohen (writer) → Michael Cohen (Australian writer) – To avoid PDAB issues versus Michael H. Cohen and others - "writer" is a very broad term. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Dawlat al-Islam Qamat → Ummati Qad Laha Fajrun – "Ummati Qad Laha Fajrun" is the main title of the nasheed; Dawlat al Islam Qamat is the next set of lyrics. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 22:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Modernism → Modernist movement – The term "modernism" is very broad, and the current article is devoted apparently to the narrowest of definitions, a 1920s-1960s artistic movement. The Modernism title is better reserved for the disambiguation, with the current article moved to Modernist movement. A detailed reasoning is provided at Talk:Modernism#Title. There are lots of incoming links that I promise to sort out if the move is agreed upon. Викидим (talk) 21:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – 2024 ballot drop box arson attacks in the United States → 2024 ballot box fires – The current title is too wordy. Few people would actually type this sequence of words to look up these events. Multiple sources have referred to the events simply as the "ballot box fires", including the investigating Portland Police Bureau. Listing the country is also unnecessary— the year is more than enough, because no other country has had anything like this happen in 2024. Simply opening the article also immediately tells you it took place in the United States. There is no ambiguity with the title "2024 ballot box fires". Sources referring to the events as the "ballot box fires": [34][35][36][37][38][39][40] Cadenrock1 (talk) 20:01, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Jason Lee (actor) → Jason Michael Lee – There is another actor named Jason Scott Lee, making WP:PARENDIS not the best choice here. Proposing full name per WP:PRECISE and WP:NATDIS. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 19:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Marmara Region → Marmara region – These geographical regions of Turkey are not usually capped in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 18:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Eastern Anatolia Region → Eastern Anatolia region
  • Aegean Region → Aegean region
  • Black Sea Region → Black Sea region

• (Discuss) – Jenkins County, Georgia, riot of 1919 → Jenkins County riot of 1919 – Page name is too long. 2600:1700:6180:6290:8991:81F5:C00C:13BD (talk) 18:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Ghosts (American TV series) → Ghosts (2021 TV series) – Back in 2022 this page was renamed as part of a larger proposal that included country of origin as a distinguishing factor. The close was contested and have since been reverted for the other two articles, so the rationale for this page's renaming is no longer valid. We have three Ghost TV shows; they don't come from three different countries so country of origin is an insufficient disambiguator; however they were all made in different years - all three shows should be disambiguated by year. 84.217.39.2 (talk) 18:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Tropical Storm Trami (2024) → Tropical Storm Trami – The storm caused a higher death toll than the other storms named Trami. The article also meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. HurricaneEdgar 14:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 16:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Turkish Women's Football Super League → Süper Lig (women) – See my rm above. Regarding this name, the word "football" is redundant in this context, because this was added to separate it from the Women's Basketball Super League, this makes it Kadın Süper Ligi in Turkish, which basically means 'women's super league', thus Süper Lig (women) seems the most logical and consistent with the men version. Beshogur (talk) 17:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 15:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Antun Herceg → Anton Herceg – His actual name is Anton (Антон).[41][42][43]. 47.201.233.193 (talk) 17:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 05:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 09:19, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 14:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Don Marshall → Donnie Marshall – Donald Marshall the hockey player has sadly passed away. The Canadian Press (republished by TSN, The Hamilton Spectator, The Waterloo Region Record, and The Times Colonist), as well as the Canadiens themselves, seem to have Donnie as his common-use nickname - I can't find any sources using "Don." This would also allow the actor's page to be moved simply to "Don Marshall", without a disambiguator. The current Donnie R. Marshall has the middle initial as a differentiator - we can use a hatnote for those who end up in the wrong spot. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:44, 10 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. R.B. 05:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 09:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 14:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Don Marshall (actor) → Don Marshall

• (Discuss) – List of most expensive Indian films → List of most expensive Indian cinema films – The revised name will clarify that the ranking is specifically for films produced by Indian film industries, with classification based on industry rather than language, as outlined in the article. Anoop Bhatia (talk) 14:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – List of highest-grossing South Indian films → List of highest-grossing South Indian cinema films – The revised name will clarify that the ranking is specifically for films produced by South Indian film industries, with classification based on industry rather than language, as outlined in the article. Anoop Bhatia (talk) 13:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Jews in Madagascar → History of the Jews in Madagascar – For over two decades on WP all articles about Jews in countries and in other areas, whether from ten, or a hundred, or a thousand years ago, has been titled as "History of the Jews in ____", see over 150 examples of this in Category:Jewish history by country (as well as in Category: Jewish history by city etc etc.) The only times that an article is reduced to the topic of a type of Jew is when writing about sub-groups within Jews themselves, such as Ashkenazi Jews, Sephardic Jews, Mizrahi Jews, which has nothing to do with the countries they are in per se. These articles record the Jewish history of Jews, all kinds of Jews, in any country or region regardless of how long those Jews have existed or been recorded there or what types of Jews they are, whether "imported" or "home-grown" it makes no difference, they are part of the "History of the Jews in ____" series of articles on WP. See Talk:Jews in Madagascar#Requested move 31 May 2024 where @Zanahary: made up a new set of "criteria" and moved the article/s without major WP:CONSENSUS from other editors, based on all sorts of unfounded and fanciful reasons such as "conciseness" and "Jews as foreigners" that undermined the original connection of these articles to the main scholarly subject of Jewish history. IZAK (talk) 20:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Jews in Taiwan → History of the Jews in Taiwan
  • Jews in Hong Kong → History of the Jews in Hong Kong

• (Discuss) – TheCall (organization) → TheCall – unneeded qualifier Hyphenation Expert (talk) 22:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – FWD Tower → PCP Tower – The building in question is actually known as Pacific Century Place. As written on the official website https://pcp-jakarta.com there is no record of the building ever being referred to as FWD Tower. This incorrect information is misleading and could cause confusion among users. Andres Arie Wibowo (talk) 09:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – The Mexican → The Mexican (film) – The title should clarify that this is a film as per WP:PARENDIS. According to WP standards, parenthetical disambiguation is needed because the standard use of Mexican is not for a film, but a person from Mexico. Currently, there is a backward redirect MexFin (talk) 06:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Thyia of Thessaly → Thyia (daughter of Deucalion) – No sources call her "Thyia of Thessaly". Best to use the disambiguator "daughter of Deucalion", per sources such as Gantz's Early Greek Myth, p. 909, and Hard's Routledge Handbook of Greek Mythology, p. 741. Michael Aurel (talk) 14:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Bedroom Farce (play) → Bedroom Farce – unnecessary disambiguation Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 19:08, 27 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Bedroom Farce → Bedroom Farce (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

• (Discuss) – Pablo Escobar, The Drug Lord → Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal – Netflix title is "Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal" (With that stylisation, is also the original stylisation). So I think we can consider that the new international title. "The drug lord" is also a very poor translation of "El patrón del Mal" Tazelaar (talk) 09:56, 25 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Special Ops: Lioness → Lioness (American TV series) – The original title of Special Ops: Lioness from Paramount+ was Lioness. So an article named Lioness (American TV series) was created in Wikipedia. Then the marketing department of Paramount+ renamed it. However as part of it's season 2 renewal it was renamed once again back to Lioness. People new to this series may not know that it was previously known as Special Ops: Lioness, At this juncture when a person enters Lioness they are directed to a disambiguation page. There is no indication that Special Ops: Lioness is indeed what they are searching for. It's described as "...a spy thriller series (2023 onwards)". We could move the article back to Lioness (American TV series) or move it to Lioness ( TV series). An alternative solution would be to edit the disambiguation page description of Special Ops: Lioness from "...a spy thriller series (2023 onwards)" to "a 2023 spy thriller TV series renamed in 2024 to Lioness". I would argue that this would be just a clumsy excuse not to move it at all. KnighsTalker (talk) 07:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). knighstalker (talk) 11:11, 25 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 11:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – CS Viitorul Minerul Lupeni → ACS Minerul Lupeni – The club was renamed as ACS Minerul Lupeni in the summer of 2024 after took back its former brand and identity. Minerul Lupeni facebook, frfotbal.ro. Rhinen (talk) 11:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Friedrich Saemisch → Friedrich Saemisch (politician) – Ambiguous with Friedrich Sämisch - these are both the same name, but transliterated differently. Redirect Friedrich Saemisch to the primary topic Friedrich Sämisch. 162 etc. (talk) 19:26, 18 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 09:38, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Superstack → Superstack (disambiguation) – The Inco Superstack, commonly known as Superstack, is the primary topic here. Both other topics at the dabpage are minor WP:DABMENTIONs and not particularly notable. Retarget Superstack to the primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 16:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 09:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – List of highest-grossing Indian films → List of highest-grossing Indian cinema films – The revised name will clarify that the ranking is specifically for films produced by Indian film industries, with classification based on industry rather than language, as outlined in the article. Anoop Bhatia (talk) 08:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Snake Eyes (G.I. Joe) → Snake Eyes – Would like to say that Snake Eyes is a popular character in the G.I. Joe franchise, so i think he should be renamed to Snake Eyes because he is notable. Toby2023 (talk) 04:57, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Snake Eyes → Snake Eyes (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

• (Discuss) – Bahay Kubo (folk song) → Bahay Kubo (song) – This song is one, and the only, song which takes up this name. Every search about "Bahay Kubo (song)" is directed here. This move can probably pass easily concerning only three articles take up this name: Bahay Kubo, this, and Bahay Kubo: A Pinoy Mano Po!. Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 01:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

October 31, 2024

• (Discuss) – Perry Cox → Dr. Cox – I don't usually think he is notable with his first name, Perry. Seeing him as Dr. Cox is more notable, so i think it should be renamed/moved to Dr. Cox. 2603:7000:7000:12BE:A07F:FCA4:6183:8CB5 (talk) 23:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – David Axelrod → David Axelrod (disambiguation) – Pageview data shows the political consultant is the primary topic per the criteria at WP:PT1. Over the last two years, the political consultant has received about 4x more average monthly pageviews than all other David Axelrod articles combined: pageview data Even if we remove the Political Consultant's relatively recent spike in views since May, he'd still receive about 3x more views than all of the other articles combined: pageview stats prior to May WikiNav data also shows 87% of visitors to the David Axelrod disambiguation page click through to the David Axelrod (political consultant): clickstream data RachelTensions (talk) 21:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • David Axelrod (political consultant) → David Axelrod

• (Discuss) – Sam Thompson → Sam Thompson (baseball) – This article may not be in certain people's minds first when searching for a particular Sam Thompson. I think a lot of people may expect Sam Thompson (TV personality) to be the most looked at page instead of the baseball one so I don't think this is the primary topic. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – State Fiscal Service of Ukraine → State Tax Service of Ukraine – The official website of the agency suggests that the official English-language name of this service is "State Tax Service of Ukraine", instead of the current article name "State Fiscal Service of Ukraine". Editors who are familiar with Ukrainian government, politics, and political history are invited for providing more perspectives and insights on this issue. Cfls (talk) 20:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Little Texas → Little Texas (disambiguation) – The only other items with the exact name "Little Texas" are the band's self-titled album and an obscure restaurant. (The dab also claimed it to be a nickname for Eastern New Mexico, but this claim is not supported by that article so I removed it.) The band has 100+ page views a day, the restaurant under 10, the Alabama town about 15, and the Virginia Town has gone multiple days this past month with zero page views. I think it's abundantly clear that almost all people searching "Little Texas" on Wikipedia are looking for the band. Pinging @Gjs238:, who moved the band's page in 2015. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Little Texas (band) → Little Texas

• (Discuss) – Cabana → Cabana (disambiguation) – Outside a few obscure things such as a chocolate bar, this is the only thing on Cabana with the exact name "cabana". Everything else is a WP:PTM. Why isn't it the primary topic? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Cabana (structure) → Cabana

• (Discuss) – 2020 Hyderabad floods → Deep Depression BOB 02 (2020) – The floods were caused solely by the depression, unlike the January 2009 Fiji floods, which were caused by several factors. Hence, I think it should be moved there. Tavantius (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Gwilym Emyr Owen III → Gwil Owen – Doing searches for "Gwil Owen" turns up only the songwriter. All of his social media credits him as "Gwil", and most music databases such as AllMusic also use "Gwil". All of the sources in the article also use "Gwil". Conversely, I could not find any references that used "Gwil" when referring to G. E. L. Owen. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 17:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Gwil Owen → Gwil Owen (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

• (Discuss) – Hook (Blues Traveler song) → Hook (song) – Currently, Hook (song) is a redirect towards Hook (music), a concept that is in music and not a song. Per WP:DABSONG, the disambiguator "(song)" is intended to be used for musical compositions, not concepts in the compositions. Also per WP:DABSONG, since the Blues Traveler song seems to be the only composition with an article (see Hook (disambiguation)#Other arts and entertainment Hook (disambiguation)#Music), this article should be retitled as proposed. Steel1943 (talk) 16:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – The Sally → Sally (1764 ship) – "the" is not usually included in titles and isn't generally part of the name of the ship. Other ships are listed at Sally (ship). 2620:6E:6000:2900:91EC:C9F1:7CB6:6116 (talk) 16:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – 2024–25 Nepal Premier League → 2024 Nepal Premier League – Event takes place wholly in 2024 (despite being in 2024-25 cricket season). For T20 tournaments like these, we generally use the actual year it's in rather than the cricket season it's in, so 2024 would be consistent with other T20 tournaments. As per above, there is some debate, so an RM to get consensus seem sensible to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:04, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Hiawatha (train) → Hiawatha (MILW train) – These paranthetical names aren't quite as clear and precise as they can be since multiple other trains have used these names throughout their history. The simple parenthetical "(train)" isn't really enough to distinguish these different trains from each other. The first article is solely about the multiple trains operated by the Milwaukee Road which predate the current Amtrak train along the corridor of the same name. The name could be changed to "trains" to indicate the multitude of different trains covered in the article. The Amtrak/Via Maple Leaf isn't the only named train with a termini in Toronto, especially the historical Lehigh Valley Railroad train, which also ran to New York City, albeit with a different alignment. The name of the article could also be changed to maybe "Amtrak/Via", but the train from my understanding is moreso grouped with Amtrak. The Amtrak Palmetto is the successor of the ACL train of the same name. The fourth article is about a completely unrelated historical ATSF train operating in California separate from the current Amtrak train. The Wolverine is also the name of a historical New York Central Railroad train. Nonetheless, I don't necessarily believe in these names as final as I want them to be subject to change, and not all of them need to be implemented. I will say that if we decide that the simple parenthetical of "(train)" is sufficient in describing the articles in question, then perhaps instead the article titles for the Amtrak Pere Marquette, Silver Star, and Valley Flyer could have "Amtrak" dropped from their parentheticals for naming consistency across all Amtrak train articles. Thoughts? OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 06:21, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Maple Leaf (train) → Maple Leaf (Amtrak train)
  • Palmetto (train) → Palmetto (Amtrak train)
  • Valley Flyer → Valley Flyer (ATSF train)
  • Wolverine (train) → Wolverine (Amtrak train)

• (Discuss) – Melange (fictional drug) → Melange (Dune) – Without commenting on whether the title should be "Spice", it should be moved to the proper disambiguation. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Whaley → Whaley, Derbyshire – If you look at pageview data, there's no primary topic. In fact, the most prominent two topics are Whaley Bridge and Whale Island, Hampshire. Duckmather (talk) 03:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Whaley (disambiguation) → Whaley

• (Discuss) – 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference → Copenhagen Summit – Per WP:COMMONNAME. PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:58, 24 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 14:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – 2024 Trump rally at Madison Square Garden → 2024 Donald Trump rally at Madison Square Garden – Using his full name in the article title is far more specific / encyclopedic and follows the same naming convention as other Trump-related articles (many far longer than this one) that use his full name instead of simply his last name. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 13:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Ethics (Spinoza book) → Spinoza's Ethics – Considering that a large amount of reliable sources call it specifically "Spinoza's Ethics" and that this title format isn't unprecedented with Goethe's Faust, I think it should be moved to the shorter title. Sources that call it "Spinoza's Ethics": * https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=pZ7hz8Kl8lAC * https://books.google.be/books?id=NbU8AAAAIAAJ * https://books.google.be/books?id=u0SeJGO9fDAC * https://books.google.be/books?id=QwCrBgAAQBAJ * https://www.torrossa.com/en/resources/an/5573266 * https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=3fKkDgAAQBAJ * https://books.google.be/books?id=wI6aEAAAQBAJ * https://books.google.be/books?hl=en&lr=&id=6OF5DwAAQBAJ ―Howard • 🌽³³ 13:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Elapsed listings

The 7-day listing period has elapsed. Items below may be closed if there's a consensus, or if discussion has run its course and consensus could not be achieved.

• (Discuss) – Deadlock (video game) → Deadlock (upcoming video game) – I have realized that the 1996 game Deadlock: Planetary Conquest was commonly referred to as "Deadlock" by critics. I believe the title needs additional disambiguation, eventually being replaced by its actual release year. The current disambiguation is insufficient. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Murder of pregnant women → Pregnancy and femicide – I think the page should be named "Pregnancy and femicide" rather than "Murder of pregnant women" because, throughout the research I conducted to update and expand upon this page, the importance of designating this type of homicide as gender-based, and therefore a femicide, in order to properly address it and prevent further cases, was repeatedly emphasized. I therefore believe that changing the title to reflect this notion is crucial. Additionally, considering studies on pregnancy-associated femicide not only comprise the period of pregnancy, but the postpartum period as well, I feel that the current title does not accurately reflect the subject. Samdlb123 (talk) 03:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – The "Human" Factor (1975 film) → The Human Factor (1975 film) – Most of the sources and external links don't use the scare quotes, and the materials from the movie itself don't seem to use them either. I haven't attempted to find out which usage is more common overall through search. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Labour government, 1964–1970 → Labour government (1964–1970) – Per WP:NCDURATION. Originally I had thought Wilson ministries would be the better title here, hence why this is separate from Talk:Labour government, 1974–1979#Requested move 31 October 2024, but that article also covers the third and fourth Wilson ministries. estar8806 (talk) ★ 03:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Labour government, 1974–1979 → Labour government (1974–1979) – Per WP:NCDURATION. Would also support 1974–1979 Labour government. estar8806 (talk) ★ 03:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – National Second Division → National Second Tier – As confirmed in today's announcement, the competition will officially be called the National Second Tier. The page should be moved to reflect this. Milkk7 (talk) 02:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Gaza humanitarian crisis (2023–present) → Gaza humanitarian crisis – The proposed title already redirects here, so there's no need for a parenthetical disambiguation. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 16:12, 22 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:10, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Bangalore → Bengaluru – Hello, I would like to highlight a previously closed proposal to move the article from Bangalore to Bengaluru. The last discussion was closed due to lack of evidence. The official name of the city is Bengaluru and is also the common use. Below are the evidences. As per WP:NAMECHANGES * https://web.archive.org/web/20120406020325/http://archive.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/oct82006/index2044162006107.asp * https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/bangalore-becomes-bengaluru-11-other-cities-renamed/articleshow/45002333.cms * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/it-is-official-bangalore-becomes-bengaluru/articleshow/45000684.cms * https://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/bangalore-is-now-bengaluru-114110100927_1.html * https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29845215 As per WP:COMMONNAME * https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/energy-and-environment/bengaluru-used-to-be-a-magical-city-for-urban-ecology-but-not-so-anymore/article68805101.ece * https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/britains-king-charles-on-a-personal-visit-to-bengaluru-6905225 * https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/bengaluru-news/bengalurus-second-international-airport-kunigal-emerging-as-front-runner-report-101729240799715.html * https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/bengaluru/south-bengaluru-likely-to-get-city-s-second-international-airport-3239145 * https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/mpox-cases-bengaluru-airport-starts-mandatory-monkeypox-testing-for-international-passengers/articleshow/113378881.cms * https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-68509409 Please let me know if any more evidence needs to be provided. Manthara^talk 19:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation) → Attempted assassination of Donald Trump – The fact that the Pennsylvania article is located at Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania rather than Attempted assassination of Donald Trump suggests that there is no primary topic. This will hopefully resolve the confusion raised at User talk:SilverLocust#Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation). GTrang (talk) 14:01, 11 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. estar8806 (talk) ★ 18:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Horten Station (1881-2007) → Horten Station (historical) – This article was recently renamed, which may be justifiable because a new Horten Station will open soon, but the date range does not seem like the best choice as a disambiguation term for the former station (especially with a hyphen instead of a dash). As far as I now, this is the only historical Horten Station (and the only article title on Wikipedia with a hyphenated date range starting after 1861). The date range seems hard to remember, and the 2007 part of it appears to be unsourced. Some links (e.g., in the Horten Line, List of discontinued railway stations in Norway, List of railway lines in Norway, Chronology of Norwegian railway lines, and Timeline of railway electrification in Norway articles and the {{Horten Line map}} template) have been incorrectly leading to the Horten Station article due to being left over from when this station was described with that title. Also, only that one has been listed on the Horten (disambiguation) page. In the last couple of months since the page renaming, a pageview comparison shows both articles having low page views and neither being dominant (especially when considering the incorrect links leading to the Horten Station article, which could inflate its pageview numbers. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:27, 14 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:41, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Fort Takapuna → Fort Takapuna O Peretu – I am proposing that the name is returned to Fort Takapuna O Peretu, in line with the naming conventions of Heritage New Zealand register for it as a category one historic place. [1]. This location and the structures upon it have been known by many names over the years, as can be seen from this New Zealand Herald article announcing the opening of the Department of Conservation Historic Reserve in 2000.[2] While O Peretu refers to the headland specifically, Fort Takapuna has been used to refer quite narrowly to the 1886 fort building and also broadly to the structures across the headland including the current Naval base that is not part of the historic reserve. Rather than removing O Peretu from the title, I propose including a section about the changing names of this location, its structures, and earlier histories of the headland. I would also like to note that O Peretu Fort Takapuna or Fort Takapuna O Peretu is being used increasingly frequently to refer to the reserve, e.g. [3] Thanks, Ewhite31 (talk) 20:58, 21 October 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Spy pixel → Tracking pixel – The proposed name seems more common, more neutral, and more formal. Note that tracking pixels (plural) redirects to a different article: Web beacon. I suggest the singular and plural terms should lead to the same article (this one). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:07, 22 October 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Damn the Torpedoes (album) → Damn the Torpedoes – WP:DIFFCAPS distinguished from damn the torpedoes, and none of the other title case entries on that page have their own articles. Add {{other uses}} to this article. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – List of World War II flying aces → Lists of World War II flying aces – This article is now a list of lists. The title should reflect that. RedDeadGuy (talk) 05:46, 21 October 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Backlog

Elapsed listings fall into the backlog after 24 hours. Consider relisting 8-day-old discussions with minimal participation.

• (Discuss) – Discworld (world) → Discworld universe – Current title makes no distinction between fact and fiction. Specifying it's a fictional universe would make it more clear. Would also be fine with Universe of Discworld, not sure which is more common as they don't really seem standardized. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:45, 22 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 00:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Alan Rose (public servant) → Alan Rose (Australian public servant) – WP:AT ambiguous disambiguation is a bad idea wP:PRECISE multiple public servants named Alan Rose with articles on Wikipedia, particularly, the nominal primary topic is a British judge, Alan Rose; The article should be moved without leaving a redirect behind, as there's no disambiguation page for "Alan Rose" to repoint it to. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 11:48, 28 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Tropical Storm Harold → Tropical Storm Harold (2023) – Harold has only been used once in the Atlantic, but has been used to name other tropical cyclones in other basins (for example Cyclone Harold in 2020), and usually if there are other storms of the same name, Tropical Storm (name) would be redirected to List of storms named (name). I believe Harold 2023 should have the year in its article title, especially since it was not retired and it was not notable; Hurricanes like Beryl and Helene were significant and devastating so they don’t have the year in their titles (both aren’t retired yet but likely will be, this does not count for Milton as this is the only time Milton has been used for a storm name (though Milton likely will be retired as well)). Tropical Storm Allison is another storm of tropical storm strength without the year in its title, though that was because it was devastating and significant and was also retired. Beryl and Helene were also significant enough not to have the year in the title. So, I think the article should be renamed from Tropical Storm Harold (without the year) to Tropical Storm Harold (2023), and “Tropical Storm Harold” would be redirected to “List of storms named Harold”. Thoughts? AwesomeAndEpicGamer (talk) 22:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Městský fotbalový stadion Miroslava Valenty → Miroslav Valenta Municipal Football Stadium – See WP:UE. No evidence that the current titles are used in English-language reliable sources. Per the policy, we "translate it if this can be done without loss of accuracy and with greater understanding for the English-speaking reader.'" 162 etc. (talk) 20:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Městský stadion (Ostrava) → Municipal Stadium (Ostrava)
  • Městský stadion (Karviná) → Municipal Stadium (Karviná)

• (Discuss) – LVOA-C → LVOA – LVOA-C is one of two variants of the LVOA (LVOA-S was originally built/tested), per the LVOA website. - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:05, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Phoenicia → Phoenicians – This article is about the Phoenicians. Phoenicia is a region but this article isn't really about the region. Phoenicians is used more often to refer to this group of citystates. Andre🚐 18:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Statism in Shōwa Japan → Shōwa nationalism – Shōwa nationalism makes it clear that the subject is a particular ideology, rather than the prævalence of any of the forms of statism within Japan. N.b. my concurrent merge-proposal. Vex-Vectoꝛ​​ 02:23, 20 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Chōsen Shinpō → Chōsen shinpō – I'm the article creator. I recently learned that sentence case is more common for transliterated titles of East Asian Works ([44]), so defaulting to sentence case. seefooddiet (talk) 23:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). seefooddiet (talk) 03:34, 13 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 05:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:18, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Rolling stock of the Watercress Line → List of rolling stock on the Watercress Line – Article is a list article; bring title in line with other list articles Danners430 (talk) 11:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – 2024 Central European floods → Storm Boris (2024) – Wrong name: Boris affected also Southern Europe (Italy and Greece).-- Carnby (talk) 10:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 17:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Feelie → Feelie (video games) – There is no clear primary topic between this and Feelie (Brave New World), upon which the name for this type of object was based. Full disclosure: I wrote the latter article just now, due to my suspicion that a notable topic had been usurped by this particular article, and indeed I discovered one. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's primary, though it might be, but putting a disambiguation page at the primary namespace is probably easier to agree on. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – 2024 Australian Capital Territory general election → 2024 Australian Capital Territory election – I don't think common name includes the word "general". "2024 Australian Capital Territory Legislative Assembly election" could also work but is wordyTheLoyalOrder (talk) 08:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. estar8806 (talk) ★ 00:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Bateidae → Batea (genus) – Per WP:MONOTYPICFAUNA, a monogeneric family should be described at the genus's title. However, in this case the genus requires more disambiguation than the family, which might contradict WP:NATDIS. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – GeoNet → GeoNet (email host) – GeoNet (New Zealand) appears to be the primary topic because 1: the other GeoNet does not exist anymore and 2: the New Zealand one is recognisable to most of the New Zealand population, whereas I doubt that many people would recognise the other GeoNet. ―Panamitsu (talk) 03:35, 26 October 2024 (UTC)— Relisting early so banner stays up for at least seven days per WP:RMCI. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
  • GeoNet (New Zealand) → GeoNet

• (Discuss) – Protagonist (Persona 3) → Makoto Yuki – I understand that this request has been made a few times in the past, but in 2024 I think it's by now indisputable that the Persona 3 protagonist's name is Makoto Yuki. This is the default name in both recent ports of Persona 3 Portable and this year's Persona 3 Reload. Characters with customizable names like Cloud Strife and Byleth are titled by their canon names and even the Persona 4 protagonist is titled Yu Narukami despite having a different manga name. The existence of the female protagonist may raise an issue, but I think the protagonist can canonically be considered male given the fact that the female option was a later addition. The option is also absent from Reload and even the official Wikipedia page for Persona 3 refers to the protagonist with male pronouns. However, if we decide we want to acknowledge both we could have a dual title in the same boat as Alexios and Kassandra. Still, I'd discourage this since the female protagonist's default name in Portable is only used in the stage play otherwise. ThanatosApprentice (talk) 04:48, 19 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 09:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Heterosexual relationships among LGBTQ people → Cross-sex relationships among LGBTQ people – The main article for the corresponding Heterosexual relationship/Cross-sex relationship we have is Same-sex relationship, as Homosexual relationship redirects there. There is Cross-sex friendship. I also would be in favour of Cross-gender relationships among LGBTQ people if possible. If duaric had an article and was popular enough, mayhaps it would be worthy to use Duaric relationships among LGBTQ people, as that would be the most politically correct. Web-julio (talk) 06:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Alejandro Villanueva → Alejandro Villanueva (footballer) – Per the criteria WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Criteria 1 (Usage): The American football player has many more page views than the footballer (daily average of 271 vs 14 over the last 365 days; this is not an instance of a current player getting extra page views as the American football player retired 3 years ago), the American football player has many more results on Google, books, news, images, refs. Criteria 2 (long-term significance): The American football player was a U.S. Army captain, earned a Bronze Star, started more than 100 NFL games, was selected to 2 Pro Bowls, and played a notable role in the U.S. national anthem kneeling protests that garned significant coverage WP:GNG If there is a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it is the American football player; however I would argue that at the very least there is no primary topic Joeykai (talk) 23:07, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Alejandro Villanueva (American football) → Alejandro Villanueva

• (Discuss) – Minnesota Fats → Minnesota Fats (character) – Why isn't the article at Minnesota Fats? That is by far the most common name used here to refer to him. Every source in the article uses Minnesota Fats, to the point even his NYT obit called him that and not Rudolph Wanderone, and the word "Wanderone" is hardly used in the text of the article instead of "Fats". Sure, he named himself after a fictional character, but inbound links and page views suggest most people looking for "Minnesota Fats" are looking for the pool player and not the character. It's blatantly obvious Wanderone's legacy has far outlasted that of the fictional character from whom he derived his name. This seems a crystal-clear violation of WP:COMMONNAME to have his article at "Rudolph Wanderone", and to me, it's like if we arbitrarily decided to move Lady Gaga's article to "Stefani Germanotta". I'm genuinely shocked no one else has even considered this issue in the past ten years. Previous discussion in 2014 had everyone pulling a different direction, and me in a more hostile mood, so I'm hoping to get a consensus this time with a clearer focus from both me and others. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 00:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Rudolf Wanderone → Minnesota Fats

• (Discuss) – Train simulator (disambiguation) → Train Simulator – Microsoft Train Simulator, Train Simulator Classic, and Train Simulator (Ongakukan) have all been referred to as "Train Simulator" alone, so they aren't just partial title matches. The generic topic of train simulator doesn't seem to be commonly capitalized. Therefore, I think that the capitalized form Train Simulator is more ambiguous than the uncapitalized form – which is why it was recently retargeted to here. And since all the non-primary titles here are capitalized, my understanding of WP:DABNAME is that the disambiguation page should be capitalized as well. (Note that a redirect from Train Simulator to Train Simulator (disambiguation) would make the latter WP:MALPLACED.) jlwoodwa (talk) 21:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 03:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Ordre des Arts et des Lettres → Order of Arts and Letters – Per WP:CRITERIA; the Order is more commonly referred to as "Order of Arts and Letters" in English-language sources. Zoolver (talk) 23:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Zoolver (talk) 02:22, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 02:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – LGBT history in Georgia → LGBT in Georgia –
  Moved from Talk:LGBT rights in Georgia § Proposed merge of LGBT history in Georgia into LGBT rights in Georgia
  Following the suggestion by Bungle, and basing what I did in LGBT in Korea, merge both and rename to LGBT in Georgia (or LGBTQ in Georgia, per WP:CONSUB of LGBTQ). --MikutoH ^talk! 01:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 00:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – List of governors of Ohio → Governor of Ohio – This article is not just a list of governors of Ohio. It documents Ohio governor qualifications, powers, and succession, as well as other infobox information such as term length, deputy, and salary. Because of the elaboration of this article on the broader topic and for consistency with other names of articles about state governors, I propose changing the name of this article. What are your thoughts? JordanJa🎮es92🐱9 00:58, 12 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 15:46, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – ICC Men's T20 World Cup → Men's T20 World Cup – per WP:COMMONNAME and per the above RM discussion as well. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 15:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann^(Talk) 11:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  • 2007 ICC World Twenty20 → 2007 World Twenty20
  • 2009 ICC World Twenty20 → 2009 World Twenty20
  • 2010 ICC World Twenty20 → 2010 World Twenty20
  • 2012 ICC World Twenty20 → 2012 World Twenty20
  • 2014 ICC World Twenty20 → 2014 World Twenty20
  • 2016 ICC World Twenty20 → 2016 World Twenty20
  • 2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup → 2021 Men's T20 World Cup
  • 2022 ICC Men's T20 World Cup → 2022 Men's T20 World Cup
  • 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup → 2024 Men's T20 World Cup
  • 2026 ICC Men's T20 World Cup → 2026 Men's T20 World Cup
  • 2028 ICC Men's T20 World Cup → 2028 Men's T20 World Cup
  • ICC Men's T20 World Cup Qualifier → Men's T20 World Cup Qualifier

• (Discuss) – ICC Women's T20 World Cup → Women's T20 World Cup – Removal of ICC as per WP:COMMONNAME and this RM discussion as well. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 16:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann^(Talk) 11:42, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  • 2009 ICC Women's World Twenty20 → 2009 Women's World Twenty20
  • 2010 ICC Women's World Twenty20 → 2010 Women's World Twenty20
  • 2012 ICC Women's World Twenty20 → 2012 Women's World Twenty20
  • 2014 ICC Women's World Twenty20 → 2014 Women's World Twenty20
  • 2016 ICC Women's World Twenty20 → 2016 Women's World Twenty20
  • 2018 ICC Women's World Twenty20 → 2018 Women's World Twenty20
  • 2020 ICC Women's T20 World Cup → 2020 Women's T20 World Cup
  • 2023 ICC Women's T20 World Cup → 2023 Women's T20 World Cup
  • 2024 ICC Women's T20 World Cup → 2024 Women's T20 World Cup
  • 2026 ICC Women's T20 World Cup → 2026 Women's T20 World Cup
  • ICC Women's T20 World Cup Qualifier → Women's T20 World Cup Qualifier

• (Discuss) – 601-603 High Street → 601–603 High Street – If I understand correctly, these are ranges of street addresses. Per MOS:NUMRANGE, ranges of numbers should be expressed with an en dash, not a hyphen. I confirmed that the NHRP uses "--" when describing the last two, which is equivalent to using an en dash. The 900-910 North Lake Shore article and some off-Wikipedia sources use "900 910" and "900/910", and the buildings' branding seems to use "900/910", and that topic is a pair of buildings, and units within each building are referred to with street addresses of 900 for one building and 910 for the other, so perhaps it should be "900 and 910". I would just perform these moves boldly, but I wonder whether someone might disagree with this interpretation or suggest alternative titles. For example, two cited sources ([45] and [46]) refer to the first topic simply as 601 High Street; it is a single building. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
  • 900-910 North Lake Shore → 900 and 910 North Lake Shore
  • Court at 940-948 North Raymond Avenue → Court at 940–948 North Raymond Avenue
  • Court at 1274-1282 North Raymond Avenue → Court at 1274–1282 North Raymond Avenue

• (Discuss) – 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation → Nuseirat rescue and killings – There are two narratives about this event. For Israelis, this was a daring rescue operation to liberate 4 hostages. For the Palestinians it was the brutal killing of 250+ people in the span of a few hours. Per WP:NPOV, Wikipedia can't take sides. There is consensus to merge Nuseirat refugee camp massacre here, and while "massacre" has POV connotations, "killings" does not (see WP:KILLINGS), and has ample precedent (Dunmanway killings, 1971 Newry killings, 2014 killings of NYPD officers etc). The "2024" is unnecessary because there has only been one rescue operation in Nuseirat.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 19:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Siege of Gerona (disambiguation) → Sieges of Gerona – Several issues I hope to address with these proposed moves. First, it makes little sense to have the "second" and "third" sieges as titles but to call the first event a battle; of the three is was the most like a battle, but the distinction is confusing in this case. It does seem that [ordinal] siege of Gerona is the most common manner of disambiguating the various events. If the first segment were to carry the WP:COMMONNAME "Battle" then it should not carry a parenthetical qualifier, being already WP:NATURALly disambiguated and the primary topic for the term; the base name Battle of Girona already redirects there and is WP:MISPLACED. Second, when used alone without additional context, "Siege of Gerona" does seem to refer to the successful final siege as a primary topic, and currently redirects there. I am proposing to leave this as a primary redirect and turn the disambiguation page into a set index at the plural, but I would also support having the set index in place of the redirect at the singular. Third, while I personally feel "Siege" in these titles is part of the proper noun, use in sources is mixed, and most "siege" articles on enwiki do not take siege as part of the proper noun (in contrast to "Battle of..." which is almost always part of the proper noun; I don't see the distinction) and WP:MILCAPS is vague, so for now let's go for being the most consistent. Lastly, as for the Girona vs. Gerona issue, there has been past move reversions and discussion about this (e.g. Talk:Third siege of Girona#Girona/Gerona), and we should reach consensus here. I am open to either spelling, but am proposing a return to Gerona because it does seem a majority of reliable sources use this spelling, and that is the criterion upon which we should base our choice. On the other hand, the modern spelling of the city is the Catalan spelling. Regardless, the set index/disambiguation page should use the same spelling as the articles. Overall, I am open to discussing and considering any and all variations of this proposal, but the status quo should not be kept. Mdewman6 (talk) 04:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Battle of Girona (1808) → First siege of Gerona
  • Second siege of Girona → Second siege of Gerona
  • Third siege of Girona → Third siege of Gerona

• (Discuss) – Cargo 200 (code name) → Cargo 200 – it is an invalid disambig page with only two meanings --Altenmann >talk 23:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Cargo 200 → Cargo 200 (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

• (Discuss) – Wild Wing (disambiguation) → Wild Wing – No clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, per Pageviews. Paradoctor (talk) 11:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

• (Discuss) – Portrait of a Man (Self Portrait?) → Portrait of a Man in a Red Turban – or Man in a Red Turban or Portrait of a Man in a Turban (reverting to the title before an undiscussed move in 2007 suggesting a right to naming deriving from ownership) or Man in a Turban, or at least Portrait of a Man (possible self-portrait) or Portrait of a Man (Van Eyck possible self-portrait). There are several problems in the current title. One is that the disambiguator appears to be a redundant alternative title rather than a type classification or context clarifier. Another is the question mark indicating a lack of confidence about whether the painting's title should be "Self Portrait" or not (or whether the painting fits into the self-portraiture category or not). We shouldn't be using question marks this way. The use of title case and the lack of a hyphen in "Self Portrait" also seem questionable. See also the previous discussion of the title from 2011–2017 on the article talk page. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Possibly incomplete requests

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• Talk:ATM – ATM is requested for move to ATM (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?

• Talk:Vitalstatistix – Vitalstatistix is requested for move to Vitalstatistix (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?

• Talk:Wade Wilson – Wade Wilson is requested for move to Wade Wilson (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?

• Talk:Superstack – Superstack is requested for move to Superstack (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?

• Talk:You Got It All – You Got It All is requested for move to You Got It All (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?

• Talk:State Fiscal Service of Ukraine – State Fiscal Service of Ukraine is requested for move to State Tax Service of Ukraine, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move

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• Wikipedia:Requested moves/Article alerts, which includes a list of recently closed, as well as open discussions