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Is there any rule for the order of entries in these lists? I think Robert Oppenheimer may be the most famous here, but it took me some time to find him down the list. A minor irritation I know, but can it be prevented? 193.1.172.163 14:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Same thing just happened to me. Only I could only remember the name oppenheimer, not his first name so it was a bit of a struggle. This isn't the first time this has happened to me. Why are the disambiguation pages giving equal weight to all possibilities instead of drawing out the obviously popular ones. 82.46.67.130 18:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: Oppenheimer should automatically redirect to J._Robert_Oppenheimer, which should have a link to this disambiguation page. I think he's probably more notable than anyone else on this less to justify it. 94.100.23.51 (talk) 10:45, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Rightly or wrongly, I judged the surname to be the primary topic of Oppenheimer, and moved the other entries to Oppenheimer (disambiguation). Since a list of name-holders is not a disambiguation page, but a set index, which is a list article, then it does not need a disambiguation wikiproject tag. If you disagree with my assessment of the surname having primacy then I don't mind moving the dab page back here. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the post and the clarification. While I have already posted this link Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Disambiguation#Question regarding Oppenheimer page on your talk page I will also leave it here for any other editors who might come across this thread so that they may join the conversation. MarnetteD | Talk 17:18, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 June 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. With the base name redirecting to the nuclear physicist; if JRO wasn't the primary topic a decade ago – which is questionable – he arguably is now. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 02:50, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


– I split out the disambiguation page a decade ago and judged the surname to be the primary topic. It was arguably a questionable decision then but the existence of Oppenheimer (film) makes it untenable. At the very least the dab page should be at the base term. Xezbeth (talk) 12:23, 26 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust (talk) 08:53, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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@Station1 Bringing the discussion here for you to gain consensus per WP: ONUS. I've stated the reasons as to why linking the film on this particular disambiguation page is unnecessary: It already links to the film here: "For other uses, see Oppenheimer (disambiguation)" [2]. Listing it again is redundant. Also, per WP:RECENTISM, this film is no different than the other listed Entertainment links: Oppenheimer (TV series), Oppenheimer (play), etc. To list this particular film at the header of this disambiguation page would be similar to listing " For J. Robert Oppenheimer at the top of the Oppenheimer (disambiguation) page. Given your reasoning, one would have to list the subject at the top of each Oppenheimer disambiguation page due to the film's recent success, too. In a year's time, the film will no longer be relevant and neither will the link. BTW, the subject's page does not even link the film at the header; nor the British mini-series, or the play. Maineartists (talk) 14:57, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That hatnote was just a temporary measure until the surname page is moved in a few days per the section above. By removing it, you just inconvenience a few hundred readers per day[3], however slightly. Station1 (talk) 02:34, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]