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February 23

February 23, 2024 (2024-02-23) (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

RD: Manohar Joshi

Article: Manohar Joshi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Maharashtra Chief Minister and Lok Sabha Speaker. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 03:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now There are several unsourced claims in the article. They should be improved before posting. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:54, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 22

February 22, 2024 (2024-02-22) (Thursday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Science and technology

RD: Jesse Baird

Article: Jesse Baird (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1], [2]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 09:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Roni Stoneman

Article: Roni Stoneman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

240D:1A:4B5:2800:9082:75E:4080:CB47 (talk) 05:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Odysseus landing

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Article: Intuitive Machines Nova-C (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Intuitive Machines's lunar lander Odysseus lands on the Moon, the first commercial lunar landing and the first landing by the United States since Apollo 17 in 1972. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The unmanned Odysseus, by American company Intuitive Machines, lands on the Moon, the first commercial Moon landing.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The unmanned Odysseus, by American company Intuitive Machines, successfully completes the first commercial Moon landing.
Alternative blurb III: ​ The unmanned Odysseus completes the first commercial Moon landing.
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Posted alt2. Anarchyte (talk) 09:02, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 21

February 21, 2024 (2024-02-21) (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

RD: Pamela Salem

Article: Pamela Salem (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

British actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:4976:6327:DB15:65E5 (talk) 13:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jayo Archer

Article: Jayo Archer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Death of a prominent motorcross rider who was also an X Games medalist. Abishe (talk) 15:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article is well-sourced but somewhat lacks quality in prose. Pksois23 (talk) 02:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Hydeia Broadbent

Article: Hydeia Broadbent (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Appears to be well-sourced. Mooonswimmer 23:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems overall well-sourced, one unsourced statement about a book and a TV appearance. JM (talk) 03:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added citations for these both facts. Seems ready to me (just a non-RS Wordpress citation for her sonority). Alexcalamaro (talk) 06:15, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seniority? --Ouro (blah blah) 14:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorority. 57.140.16.1 (talk) 14:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ewen MacIntosh

Article: Ewen MacIntosh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

240D:1A:4B5:2800:CD0D:DA83:68EA:1330 (talk) 13:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Nuristan landslide

Article: 2024 Nuristan landslide (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A landslide killed at least 25 people in Afghanistan's Nuristan province. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, VOA, DW, AP, Washington Post
Credits:

Needs expansion. Ainty Painty (talk) 05:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong oppose: This bears no significance at all. Article is also a complete stub. Don't just nominate articles for ITN simply because it happened. Tofusaurus (talk) 05:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - good faith nom! Unfortunately, the article is far from ready to be posted, as it is a stub, and while there is no minimum death requirement for posting disasters and accidents, the notability is also a bit questionable. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 08:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality The article is a stub. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:07, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose good faith nom We are not a local disaster report, and the article quality isn't there. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose its a stub Setarip (talk) 13:04, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment in addition to the above, given that Ainty Painty also created it, I would remind them about WP:NOT#NEWS and WP:NEVENT, and the fact that not all natural disasters are necessarily going to have long-term notability. We do have List of landslides where these can be documented but as that list shows, not every landslide has a standalone article. Creating a stubby news article on something that may not be easily expanded is discouraged. --Masem (t) 13:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose due to the article being a stub. I will also oppose on notability unless the event turns into something far bigger. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 13:41, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability A large landslide with a high casualty rate is notable as evidenced by global coverage. Not all natural disasters are necessarily going to have long-term notability, but given we have multiple reliable global sources covering it this meets notability criteria. I would also like to point out there's nothing wrong in nominating at ITN in order to draw attention to an article needing expansion, especially when it's breaking news. Unfortunately, given its Afghanistan, a notoriously difficult part of the world to find consistent and reliable news for, this may be all we ever get so far; however this shouldn't lessen its notability. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:04, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "there's nothing wrong in nominating at ITN in order to draw attention to an article needing expansion"
    I completely disagree, and I greatly dislike when it occurs. (Note that I'm not commenting on this specific nomination.) The point of nominating an article at ITN is to get an article listed on ITN. Kicking222 (talk) 18:20, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    One doesn't exclude the other. Most nominations need work before they are posted, especially recent deaths nominations; thus this is an ideal way to improve articles that otherwise would have been missed. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Please review NEVENTS. Specifically just because an event gets a burst of coverage in the short term doesn't make it sufficiently notable for WP. That's what Wikinews is for. We want enduring events, and a landslide with a relatively low death toll in a third world country/region just isn't going to get wide coverage. — Masem (t) 18:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the "third world country/region" part is unnecessary here, as we should work to give coverage to all regions of the world. It's just that this specific event doesn't rise to the threshold of ITN notability. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We do want to cover events from all over the world, and we do have to watch for western biases, but there are events that are the equivalent of "if a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?" The articles from international sources covering this are extremely short and almost are news-in-brief, compared to other disasters that I've seen from third-world countries that get far more coverage. We sometimes simply cannot support notability of a event if coverage is just lacking, and while we should strive to include such events when the coverage is there, we shouldn't stretch our practices to include them. Masem (t) 01:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I absolutely agree, in this kind of situation the coverage just isn't sufficient sometimes. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 01:43, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    An important thing that NEVENTS says However, this may be difficult or impossible to determine shortly after the event occurs, as editors cannot know whether an event will receive further coverage or not. That an event occurred recently does not in itself make it non-notable. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 20:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on quality still a stub. JM (talk) 02:59, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Fali Sam Nariman

Article: Fali Sam Nariman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Noted Lawyer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose 6 unsourced paragraphs/isolated lines. JM (talk) 03:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Abdul Taib Mahmud

Article: Abdul Taib Mahmud (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3] [4]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Chief Minister and Yang Di-Pertua Negeri (Governor) of the Malaysian state of Sarawak. A prominent name in Sarawakian politics as he had formal and informal power over the state for over 40 years. Tofusaurus (talk) 01:20, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Section has been fixed. Tofusaurus (talk) 05:41, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support All prior sourcing issues appear to have been fixed, and there are no glaring issues regarding the article's quality. Good for ITN/RD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 17:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Major figure in Malaysian politics and perhaps its worst kleptocrat since the 1970s.
gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 00:35, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PenangLion: notability is not treated as a factor in RD nominations, votes should be instead based on the article quality alone. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reminder. Despite this, the article is sufficient for a pass judging by article quality itself. gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 07:56, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 20

February 20, 2024 (2024-02-20) (Tuesday)

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Law and crime

Science and technology

Sports

RD: Ameen Sayani

Article: Ameen Sayani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Host of Binaca Geetmala Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose mostly unsourced. JM (talk) 03:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ihar Lednik

Article: Ihar Lednik (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Reported worldwide, death of a prominent Belarusian opposition figure and political prisoner. I have just created this article, help on expanding would be much appreciated; nominating in order to draw attention to it. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Chrysler Halcyon

The announcement of a new concept car will not gain consensus to post. Stephen 23:28, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Chrysler Halcyon (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Was in the news; example: CNBC (Post)
News source(s): CNBC
Credits:

Article updated
⚒️★MinecraftPlayer★321⚒️ Let's Chat! 22:58, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I stand corrected, there's an article. Good faith nom, but I still *Oppose MyriadSims (talk) 23:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Efeso Collins

Article: Efeso Collins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5] [6]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sitting MP for the Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand, first sitting MP to die in 11 years. -- David Palmer aka cloventt (talk) 22:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's a good quality article, with lots about his life, mentoring, charity work, the impact he had on society (he played a role in getting Police Ten 7 cancelled), the evolution of his political beliefs, his run for the mayoralty (which sparked a serious debate on the terrible turnout rate in NZ local elections), and the rest of his 25-year political career. It also has a high quality and handsome photo of him, beautiful video of him being celebrated by Sāmoan dancers after giving his maiden speech. I would definitely Support - this is a tragedy for Auckland as a city, and the nation is in mourning. 222.152.26.228 (talk) 09:07, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, if the bloke who was in Strictly Come Dancing or the guy from Slap Shot gets mentioned instead of Efeso, it would be in very poor taste. 222.152.26.228 (talk) 09:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is not the place to dismiss other RD nominations. As the nomination template states, every recently deceased person, animal or organism with a Wiki article is relevant enough to be posted, regardless of what they were known for. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 10:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Robin Windsor

Article: Robin Windsor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, BBC News, The Times obituary
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

2A02:C7C:9241:7B00:8C48:47B6:6279:1761 (talk) 19:14, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Still a small amount of unsourced material, unfortunately. Does every entry in the Strictly tables have to be sourced? Also there seems to still be some disagreement over his date of death, which does not seem to have been published anywhere. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Date of death now confirmed as 20 February (see The Times obituary above). Martinevans123 (talk) 11:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Paul D'Amato

Article: Paul D'Amato (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Jensen, Tim (February 20, 2024). "Actor Paul D'Amato Dies; Avid Charity Supporter Throughout Connecticut". Enfield, CT Patch.
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Actor with a modest repertoire, but outsized influence due to his scene-stealing appearance in Slap Shot resulting in him becoming the model for the comic book appearance of the character, Wolverine. BD2412 T 15:27, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Andreas Brehme

Article: Andreas Brehme (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Successful footballer, best known as the scorer of the goal that won West Germany the 1990 World Cup Abcmaxx (talk) 17:51, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 19

February 19, 2024 (2024-02-19) (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

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International relations

Law and crime

Sports

RD: Ira von Fürstenberg

Article: Ira von Fürstenberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Il Messaggero
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Italian socialite and actress. Death announced 19 February. Thriley (talk) 04:46, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Oppose - 4 CN tags. A bit much, given the length of the article. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 08:04, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral - Sourcing can still be improved upon, but CN tags have been dealt with. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 10:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Kagney Linn Karter

Article: Kagney Linn Karter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Mirror
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Adult film star Kagney Linn Karter dies at age 36. Heatrave (talk) 05:47, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Yasmine Gooneratne

Article: Yasmine Gooneratne (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Sunday Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

She died on 15 February 2024 but her death was reported by Sunday Times only as of today. Unfortunately few sources have reported her demise. Abishe (talk) 02:28, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now The article has multiple unsourced statements, and likely needs cleanup. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:19, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 18

February 18, 2024 (2024-02-18) (Sunday)

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(Posted) British Academy Film Awards

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Article: 77th British Academy Film Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At the British Academy Film Awards, Oppenheimer wins Best Film and six other awards, including Best Actor (winner Cillian Murphy pictured). (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Only thing missing is the In Memoriam, seemingly because it hasn't got a source. Otherwise, good prose update and ref for the winners already there. Kingsif (talk) 21:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On every article about the film awards, the information about nods and noms (e.g. The trio of Barbie, Killers of the Flower Moon, and Oppenheimer led the longlists ...) is in the "Ceremony information" section. Shouldn't they be in the "Winners and nominees" section instead? Shouldn't the "Ceremony information" section be named "Ceremony" instead? Is there something I'm missing here? Aaron Liu (talk) 21:59, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, do we really need separate sections for the non-recurring awards? Can't we put them together in the awards table? Aaron Liu (talk) 22:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you are talking about things like the BAFTA Fellowship, those don't have nominee lists that are publicly known, so it makes sense to keep them outside the table. — Masem (t) 23:36, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see why the table has to only contain always-recurring items. Aaron Liu (talk) 02:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think ITNC is really the place to be chatting about the format of all the film awards articles Kingsif (talk) 03:06, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Film awards task force
or maybe, copied. Aaron Liu (talk) 03:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support The article is of generally good quality and is well-sourced. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 22:37, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article looks ready to go. Moncoposig (talk) 01:42, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Looks fully-cited and well-written. The Kip 03:13, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted with Best Director as the higher level award. Stephen 05:02, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have to point out again that the Statistics section is unsourced, which is what stopped the Emmys from being posted. Either we accept that these are routine CALC and not SNYTH, or this should be pulled until sources are added. --Masem (t) 05:12, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Just my 2 cents, but I've always been in favor of that material being considered under WP:CALC. The info's already right there in the section above, it's just reformatting what's already there. The Kip 05:35, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I thought the argument for needing sources was because some editors thought that it was unimportant how many noms/wins something or another had, so the sources were there to show it was considered important - and that, with the Emmys, this was brought up because how many noms/wins various networks had was considered particularly unimportant/irrelevant by those editors (or maybe it's because the networks weren't always listed, so it was SYNTH, but the networks was brought up). As it is, I think it is simple CALC as long as it's only for what is listed, so if we're not concerned with that, it should be fine. Kingsif (talk) 05:37, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      It's definitely SYNTH, for exactly the reasons you highlight. Particularly so when there are footnotes explaining why certain listings are deemed ambiguous due to whether or not a rising star award is chosen. Either that section should be chopped (or sourced) or the ITN should be pulled. Particularly so as we've not posted the Emmys for the same reason.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:55, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      For the Emmys it was shown there were sources that listed what got the most noms/wins (though not necessarily to the same degree as in the RSes), and I do think that there is info for that for the BAFTAs, but I still read the Emmy oppose !votes as more a SNYTH issue in terms of adding up those ourselves and possibly making mistakes in that count. Masem (t) 13:08, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have removed this deeply controversial section Stephen 00:49, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And its back already. Masem (t) 01:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've popped a question on whether these sections are SYNTH or not over at WP:NORN, since it feels we need an answer here. — Masem (t) 01:34, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 17

February 17, 2024 (2024-02-17) (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Law and crime

RD: Mary Bartlett Bunge

Article: Mary Bartlett Bunge (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://news.med.miami.edu/mary-bartlett-bunge/
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American neuroscientist. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 05:40, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Gamini Jayawickrama Perera

Article: Gamini Jayawickrama Perera (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dinamina
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sri Lankan politician, former Minister of Buddha Sasana. Titanciwikitalk/contrib 21:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Johan Galtung

Article: Johan Galtung (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dagbladet
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Norwegian sociologist, principal founder of the discipline of peace and conflict studies. --NoonIcarus (talk) 00:30, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Mike Procter

Article: Mike Procter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

South African Cricketer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:53, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Lefty Driesell

Article: Lefty Driesell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post; Baltimore Sun
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Y2hyaXM (talk) 15:50, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Russia takes the city of Avdiivka

Article: Battle of Avdiivka (2022–2024) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ukrainian forces withdraw from Avdiivka, leading to a Russian victory in the battle. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Ukrainian forces withdraw from Avdiivka, leading to a Russian victory in the battle.
News source(s): BBC;The Guardian
Credits:
  • Comment I can't oppose this because the supporters are right. This is a major strategic victory, which practically achieves one of Russia's primary goals—that is, fully capture Donetsk. On the other hand, I can't support this on procedural grounds because of the ongoing item, which has been placed there for months with nothing spectacular happening. I proposed a removal of the ongoing item twice and warned that one day a major event would happen that would merit inclusion on its own. That day has cone.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Great article, and while there is ongoing, it's not unprecedented that major events within the context of ongoing are posted to ITN. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:05, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Already covered by ongoing. Moreover, the blurb is non-neutral. Grabbing some territory containing burned out buildings while losing 10,000s of troops and 100s of armored vehicles is not necessarily a "victory." Jehochman Talk 18:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It might be a pyrrhic victory, but getting the city absolutely qualifies as a victory. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I understand why this was nominated, but it's unlikely to be a decisive moment in the war. Before the invasion it had a population of 30,000 - a small town. This is a far less important capture than those of Kherson, Mairupol, Sievierodonetsk, and arguably even Bakhmut. Just because the war has largely been a stalemate in the last year doesn't mean we should blurb every advance - that's what the Ongoing entry is for. Modest Genius talk 19:13, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    PS. to quote the 'strategic importance' section of the article: "the Russian capture of Avdiivka would not have a strategic impact on the overall war". Modest Genius talk 19:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support alt - normally Id say covered by ongoing, but its a really good article and as a story its gotten enough attention to merit posting on its own. nableezy - 19:29, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose covered by ongoing, good faith nom though. Hungry403 (talk) 00:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 16

February 16, 2024 (2024-02-16) (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

RD: Dmitry Markov (photographer)

Article: Dmitry Markov (photographer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/16/russian-photographer-dmitry-markov-dies-at-42-a84121
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Russian journalist and photographer who on the same day as Navalny. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 05:48, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Alain Cribier

Article: Alain Cribier (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.paris-normandie.fr/id495141/article/2024-02-17/professeur-de-renom-au-chu-de-rouen-alain-cribier-est-mort-lage-de-79-ans
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Pioneering French cardiologist. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 12:14, 18 February 2024

RD: Idris Ali (politician)

Article: Idris Ali (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.deccanherald.com/india/west-bengal/tmc-mla-idris-ali-dies-from-illness-2897354
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian MP Member of Parliament for the 16th Lok Sabha from Basirhat, West Bengal. --65.94.213.53 (talk) 12:14, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PFHLai: I added a reference & put it in the main prose. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 04:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: José Gotovitch

Article: José Gotovitch (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTBF
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: An important and influential figure in the writing of Belgium's contemporary history. Death only announced on 17 February. —Brigade Piron (talk) 12:05, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Bryan Thomas

Article: Bryan Thomas (architect) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: English architect Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 16:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Imtiaz Qureshi

Article: Imtiaz Qureshi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian chef. Article is a reasonable start-class biography Article has developed to at least a C-class biography. Rater.js says B-class, but, I think it is a solid C-class. Ktin (talk) 03:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article appears well sourced Dantus21 (talk) 12:51, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted, Closed) Alexei Navalny dies

The discussion has petered out finally on a contentious nomination. If there are any further issues with the blurb, these should be discussed at WP:ERRORS. Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:35, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Proposed image
Articles: Alexei Navalny (talk · history · tag) and Death of Alexei Navalny (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny dies in the Russian Gulag at the age of 47. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny dies in Russian prison near Kharp, Russia at the age of 47.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny dies in a penal colony near Kharp, Russia at the age of 47.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny dies in a penal colony near Kharp, Russia at the age of 47.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Russian authorities report the death of opposition leader Alexei Navalny in a penal colony near Kharp, Russia at the age of 47.
News source(s): Kommersant; Sky News; Life.ru; The Guardian
Credits:
EXTREMLY STRONG SUPPORT, BUT WAIT Putin may be lying about the death of a political rival, so before we add it, we should at least get confirmation from his family. Redacted II (talk) 17:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Indisputably notable. KlayCax (talk) 17:37, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Last I checked, reliable secondary sourcing is a requirement before we post someone's death on the main page. Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 17:42, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And we have that? From Sky, The Guardian, The NYT... Aaron Liu (talk) 18:11, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Sky and Guardian sources in the proposal are based entirely on the official Russian claims, which are known for being untrustworthy. That's not independent sourcing Gimmethegepgun (talk) 18:24, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All of them are reporting what the Russian authorities say, which automatically makes it a question. We need independent sourcing on the actual claim, not something from Russia's govt — Masem (t) 18:24, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support and NOW. Preferably in version IV, until the little doubt there may be as to the veracity of the report has been quelled. But (at least at the moment of writing this) his article reports his death as a fact, so any of the versions are OK.Nø (talk) 17:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That his article reports the death as fact is a problem with the article, not an argument to propagate the problem here. Sources aren't in agreement yet. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:48, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support for posting, and support for stronger wording such as 'prisoner of conscience', 'political prisoner' or 'Putin's opponent'. Supported by sources such as Amnesty International. Melmann 17:51, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Amnesty intentional is known here as a biased but factually true source due to being an advocacy group. Stringing together "opposition leader" and "dies in [prison]" is enough IMO. Aaron Liu (talk) 18:09, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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